What if Your Plumber Makes Mistakes?

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What if Your Plumber Makes Mistakes?

What If Your Plumber Makes Mistakes?

Plumbers have a reputation for charging well and finishing jobs quickly. Even something simple, like replacing a tap washer, can mean paying for a full call-out or minimum hour. That can feel frustrating, but good plumbers are in short supply and usually very busy. The work is skilled, sometimes physically demanding, and a poor job can leave you with leaks, damp, or worse. When water is involved, you really do not want someone unqualified working on your pipes.

So what happens when the work goes wrong? Whether the plumber has fitted a part badly, damaged your property, or simply not done what you paid for, you have rights under UK consumer law. Here is how to handle it.

Finding a good plumber in the first place

Prevention is easier than cure. Most people only start looking for a plumber when something has already gone wrong, and that pressure makes it harder to be choosy. If you can, sort out a trusted name before you need one.

  • Ask how long they have been trading. A longer track record is usually a good sign.
  • Ask for references, and follow them up if the job is not an emergency.
  • Check whether they are registered with a recognised scheme. Gas work, for example, may only be carried out by a Gas Safe registered engineer. For unvented hot water cylinders, look for a relevant qualification.
  • Ask about public liability insurance. If something goes badly wrong and your home is damaged, this is what pays out.
  • Get the quote in writing, including what is and is not included, the hourly rate or fixed price, and the cost of parts.
  • Check online reviews across more than one platform, and treat suspiciously glowing or suspiciously vague reviews with caution.

TrustMark is the government-endorsed quality scheme for tradespeople in the UK, and membership of a trade body such as the Chartered Institute of Plumbing and Heating Engineering (CIPHE) is another reasonable indicator. None of these guarantee perfection, but they reduce the risk of running into cowboy builders and tradespeople.

Your rights when a plumber gets it wrong

When you pay a plumber for work, you are entering into a contract for services. The Consumer Rights Act 2015 sets out what you are entitled to expect. In short, the service should be:

  • Carried out with reasonable care and skill.
  • Completed within a reasonable time, if no specific time was agreed.
  • Provided for a reasonable price, if no price was agreed up front.

Any parts or materials supplied as part of the job, such as a new tap or boiler, should also be of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, and as described.

If the work falls short of these standards, the Act gives you two main remedies. You can ask the plumber to put it right (called repeat performance), or, if that is not done within a reasonable time or without causing significant inconvenience, you can ask for a price reduction. In serious cases the reduction could be up to the full amount paid.

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Steps to take if the job has been botched

Try to stay calm and methodical. Shouting tends to slow things down rather than speed them up.

  • Take photographs and videos of the problem as soon as you spot it. Date them.
  • Keep all paperwork: the quote, invoice, receipts for parts, text messages and emails.
  • Contact the plumber in writing, by email or letter, explaining what is wrong and what you want them to do. Give a reasonable deadline.
  • If there is further damage, such as a leak soaking a ceiling, take reasonable steps to limit it (turn the water off at the stopcock, move belongings) and keep receipts for anything you spend.
  • If they refuse to return or fix the problem, get one or two written quotes from other plumbers showing the cost of remedial work. You may be able to recover this from the original plumber.

Your situation may be slightly different. ask a question below ↓ and our editorial team will reply with our advice.

If the plumber will not cooperate

If you have given the plumber a fair chance and they still will not put things right, you have a few options.

  • Trade body complaints procedures. If the plumber belongs to a scheme such as TrustMark, CIPHE, or APHC, you can usually complain through them. Some offer alternative dispute resolution.
  • Alternative dispute resolution (ADR). Mediation or arbitration can be cheaper and faster than court. Citizens Advice can point you to the right scheme.
  • Small claims. You can take a claim through the county court (or simple procedure in Scotland). It is designed to be used without a solicitor. Check GOV.UK for current claim limits and fees.
  • Gas Safe Register. For unsafe gas work, report the engineer to the Gas Safe Register. They can investigate and inspect the work.

How you paid matters

The way you paid the plumber can affect what you can recover.

  • Credit card: Under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, if the job cost more than £100 and up to £30,000, your card provider is jointly liable with the plumber for breach of contract or misrepresentation. You can claim from the card company directly.
  • Debit card or e-money: Section 75 does not apply, but you may be able to ask your bank to attempt a chargeback under Visa or Mastercard scheme rules. Time limits apply, so do not delay.
  • Cash or bank transfer: You have no card-scheme protection, so you would need to pursue the plumber directly.

Insurance, damage and where to get further help

If the plumber's work has caused damage to your property, for example a flood from a badly soldered joint, their public liability insurance should cover the repair. Ask for their insurer's details and make a claim. Your own home insurance may also cover escape of water, although you may end up paying an excess and could lose any no-claims discount. It is worth getting both options on the table before deciding which route to use.

Consumer law changes from time to time, and figures such as small claims limits and court fees are updated regularly. For the most current guidance, check the Citizens Advice website or GOV.UK. For complaints about gas safety, contact the Gas Safe Register directly.

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Aamir 24/04/2023 at 6:21 am
Hi,
I had a bathroom and toilet restoration completed. Bath tub taken out and a shower fitted. The job ended after 2 weeks and I paid them the full amount. Within the 48hours the pipes started leaking. I contacted ted them but they kept insisting that I should close the main water connection which I did not know how to. Ended up spending more money on this thing to stop the house water supply before the whole house would have flooded. The contractor kept insisting that they have finished the job. The water came through the ceiling of the kitchen. Extremely stressful situation for my elderly parents, with no water and no solution. What can I do? Please help.
Conmen are scum 19/07/2021 at 12:25 am
Emergency call out . Water down the walls etc. Plumber came said it was a loose tile. Then left after. Charged £300. 50 for call out 200 for labour. 50 vat. After some arguing over the phone at being over charged. When the leak was still present. When notified he told us that he would come an see the second leak. He didn't even fix it in the first place. Now we are being hounded to pay which we are refusing as no work was done and nothing was fixed. We now need to get a trusted plumber out to check the leak. Any advice is appreciated.
KT 18/11/2020 at 10:18 pm
I had a new bathroom put in about 2.5 years ago and at the time I told plumber the shower cubicle was leaking. He came when I was out and put some yellow glue down the seams. This stopped the leak but it must still have been leaking underneath as I just noticed my Lino floor turning black at the edge.When I pulled it back the floor was black and you could press your finger in it.He does not have a business now and refuses to fix the problem.When he fitted the bathroom numerous other things went wrong like water running into my kitchen as sink not properly plumbed in and bath was leaking.Altogether there are 14 things wrong in the bathroom.The tiling is not level either.Is there anything I can do to get some money from him to fix the problem.
jcamden 02/11/2020 at 5:44 am
I called an emergency plumber to repair leak in rental flat. Water was leaking from our bathroom into bathroom below. He analysed problem as being due to gap in seal around bathtub but was not sure. Existing seal had been put on one year before. He claimed he could not see under bathtub without breaking tiles on side of bath. He installed new seal and we received invoice for two hours work plus materials (£360). He visited flat below and saw, before leaving, that leak continued. He advised that he hoped his work stopped leak but was not sure it would. Leak worsened. We called builder who had installed bathroom. He found leaky toilet cistern, fixed it and leak stopped. He advised it was possible to look underneath bath without breaking any tiling or causing damage. He advised nearly impossible there would have been two leaks and no evidence at all of any leak from bathtub. Original plumber wants payment in full. I have explained they did not carry out work required to stop leak and carried out unnecessary work, that was not required. Please advise. Thanks
Helen 12/10/2020 at 4:29 pm
My plumber replaced shower outlet with a design which quickly blocks and is difficult to clean. Should he return to correct this or have I made an expensive error?
Teaspoon 22/09/2020 at 8:55 pm
We had a brand new bathroom fitted with new shower etc. The cost was just over £6000 and it was 2 years ago. Since then we've called the plumber back on so many occasions due to toilet continually running water in bowl after flushing, toilet not filling up, shower continually blocked with water not running away and the sealant around the shower has now been re done 4 times now with the first one being redone again due to the wrong colour being used and when removed left dark Mark's on the tiles. The toilet has leaked at the bottom 3 times now. Is there anything I can do this far down the line?
Beebs 17/09/2020 at 11:24 pm
I had an outside water pipe fixed but in the process of the repair, a couple of paving slabs got damaged. Should I request a discount from my invoice?
Us 09/08/2020 at 7:32 am
We had a tiled roof and replaced it with colorbond by a well credentialed company 18 months ago. We have had endless problems with persistent leaks in a particular area (which presents itself as drips through wood panelled ceiling) whenever it rains. Company has been very quick to respond and “fix” several times but we are still experiencing the same problem. Incredibly frustrating and leaves us anxious whenever we know rain is on the way. Where do we go from here to have this problem resolved?
Laine 18/07/2020 at 1:21 pm
My Dad had a new hot water system fitted at the end of last year, after a few weeks we noticed that the water wasn’t getting hot so we contacted the plumber and he told us we had to prime the system, he really wasn’t very helpful and didn’t want to know, fortunately we worked it out for ourselves, however, we were having to prime the system every couple of weeks. After a few months we noticed an amount of water along the bottom of the cupboards in the kitchen, this was just as lockdown for Corona happened and with my dad having copd he was paranoid about letting anyone into the house, we then noticed fungi growing near the leak and as lockdown restrictions were being lifted we contacted the plumber to explain the problem, he said he would come around the next day to have a look, he never turned up, I contacted him again and he said that he had forgotten, we agreed that he would come round again but again he didn’t turn up, after a few weeks of not showing up and not hearing from him, I contacted him again, he said that he had been around twice and nobody was home, I explained that my dad hasn’t left the house for over 6 months! We arranged that he would come around today, I have sent him two messages today, one to ask what time he would be here and one to ask if he was still coming, both of my messages have been ignored and I’ve had no reply. What are the next steps that we should take???
Netty 04/04/2020 at 7:48 pm
I am bought a in wall hung toilet. I was asked by the plumber to show him what hight to set it. This wasnt an area l was expertice at as it isnt some thing when pointing in mid air l tend to need to know about. I thought about 'so high" the plumber said thats to high.
Im disabled and wanted it a bit higher so l can stand back up just a little easyer.
I wasnt able to put my weight on the toilet wilst trying to work out the hight so had to put books on the bath edge and sit on those to get the hight. His apprentice at one point said you want your feet to not be off the ground. I agreed , and came to what seemed right.
Now its set in on the frame with 7 hours of what was serious work by the plumber and on all accounts l respect him and his work.
The toilet still needs more work for the water to be re- connected to it, its an old house.
The issue is after the plumber left , and the silicone dryed around the wall edging, l sat on my toilet to see how it was and my feet are 6 to 7 inches of the ground .
This is horrible and an increadibly expensive mistake.
I realise now when working out the hight, l was sitting on the edge not back and in the centre of the hole, which requires a different position and affects the height greatly.
The toilet including seat with lid open 60 centermeters or just on 24 inches from the ground.
I would have thought, in hindsight, the plumber should have been more aware of the issues involved in hight details and reasoning.
He did say getting it right was important becose there was no changeing it once it was done. And believe me its not cheap doing it.
Who is responsible please.
David 15/02/2020 at 9:20 am
This entire post should be printed off and flushed down the nearest toilet.
Jenny 09/01/2020 at 1:54 am
Hello,

Recently we had an emergent situation where our main sewage line was blocked with tree roots, verified by a video scope. This morning the company came and performed a hydro flush on our clay pipes and collapsed our main sewage line. Due to it being more emergent they brought an excavation crew and dug up our front yard and walkway. The cost of this to us is $6400 and the company is saying they aren’t liable at all since it’s a complication- however this was never discussed with me or my husband. I had requested a copy of the video scope, for peace of mind that the line was intact prior to their flush, however they are obviously dragging their feet on it. Since I didn’t have the video I couldn’t get any second opinions (nobody is going to touch that now). Is this something that happens commonplace and should I be pursuing more of a legal action on this?
Marls 10/10/2019 at 1:00 pm
Plumer put new tap on got him back hot water runningslow fixed it charged £20 is that right
Ap 09/09/2019 at 9:41 pm
Got a plumber to refit my bathroom. After a week the flat downstairs came back from holiday and said there was a leak in their room directly below. Got the Plumber to come back out. He stopped the leak and said he will repair their ceiling once it's dried. The plumber has checked the room now its dry but flat below want him to replace the plasterboard, he only wants to fill the cracks and paint, said it does not need a new plaster board.. Both parties are now putting pressure on me to pay for the repairs as Plumber is not willing to repair the ceiling extensively and will not deal with each other directly.. What should I do??
Gill 08/07/2019 at 7:26 pm
We bought a very old house that had been fully renovated internally less than a month ago. The toilet is leaking from the back. Is the renovator liable to repair it as he fitted it and it is less than a month old? Thanks
Web 06/07/2019 at 6:12 pm
Had some taps fitted two months ago by a handyman. He fitted my kitchen taps and bathroom taps. All seemed fine but I had a leak yesterday and soaked the floors and flat below.

Can I blame someone who fitted new taps 2 months ago when it hasn't been a problem since the work was done?
Tina 13/05/2019 at 11:49 pm
I have called plumber for faulty valve on hot cylinders, Something went wrong, the hot water came from hot cylinders, and flooded some area of my house. They have to replace a hot cylinder, but now I received a bill of 1,188 bill for the plumber ‘s fault. Do you think I they asked too much?
Exasperated 12/05/2019 at 3:19 pm
Hi we have had a bathroom ripped out and bath replaced with a shower. Quote was for 8.5 days two fitters 300.00 per day. Plumber left us with no basin and incomplete tiled shower that did work and a toilet that was not secured to the wall and wouldn’t flush whilst he went on holiday for a week. The job took 16 days but I’d not finished!! The bathroom is tiny. He initially said because he delayed two start dates if it went over he would swallow the cost. Fitting was 2550 he had now invoiced us with a new bill consisting of 3600 labour! No point did he say he wanted more money. Whilst he did work late some days he hadn’t started the works until late morning. He also stated shower tray glass doors etc were cheaper that original quote. Whilst he quoted for two fitters for 4 days initially he was on his own and the first two days it was his nephew of school age who was on study leave who helped ripped out the bathroom. There have been several others issues but everything is getting acrimonious and we have lost all confidence in him. We have asked him to reduce the bill. Any advise anyone how to proceed? We have been accommodating the whole time but it had been a nightmare. We have never ever had issues with workmen before and we have had numerous building projects completed on our house. Our first bathroom from Rip out to fitting and tiling took 5 days from start to finish one plumber and one tiler.
Kath 20/03/2019 at 1:46 pm
I have a completely new bathroom fitted and everything seems to be wrong and all the other bathroom companies who have inspected it have suggested it should be all done again. One of the main issues is the shower tray is not level with the water flowing away from the waste pipe. I am hoping to take the original bathroom fitter to court, will a report from a new bathroom company with my photographic evidence be enough to prove my claim or do I need a professional accessor to give written evidence.
Shell 28/02/2019 at 6:02 pm
We bought a new build 3 years ago and we have just had a leak coming through our living room ceiling. We contacted the plumbing company who installed it as we had their details from our house details. The plumper had to cut into our ceiling in several places to identify where the leak was coming from. When her found the sauce he said that the pipe hadn’t been fitted properly in the first place. The only reason it’s took so long to leak is because we rarely use the upstairs heating.. he took photos and contacted his boss and told us he would send a report in. We contacted the building company who had built our house and they said they had received the report and said they it was a faulty connection were taking no further as we were not covered anymore. And advised us to contact the manufacturer Who is responsible for the damage? Do,we have any legal rights as we have been in the house 3 years
CJ 31/01/2019 at 5:08 pm
We have just had a plumber come round and unblock a blocked drain.

He insisted he needed to see behind the toilet first, even though we knew the issue was a blocked drain. He then proceeded to saw a very large hole into the plasterboard behind the toilet, had a very quick look and said "yep, everything fine here", went downstairs and unblocked the drain in a matter of minutes.

Is he liable to pay for the damage to our wall, considering he never needed to do this in the first place?
Alicat 06/12/2018 at 7:59 pm
I had some plumbers move a radiator and now 3months later a leak has occurred I called another emergency plumber out to stop and fix the leak.
Can I claim off the original plumber? For the emergency plumbers time and the damage to my property
I did not contact them at the time to fix it, just got another plumber to come out
Greg 14/11/2018 at 10:00 am
I had a leak in the piping for a re-circulation pump for hot water heater which caused minor flooring in my condo on Thursday afternoon. I called in a professional plumbing company to fix the leak. The plumber came out and spliced the leak in the pipe but did not address the re-circulation pump. These pumps are not designed to run dry and in fact the company had replaced several of the units in the condo building. The next day the pump locked up because it ran dry during the break, which is typical as noted in the documentation from the manufacturer. As a result of the pump locking up, the piping swelled and broke flooding my entire condo unit, 2 units below and the lobby area.
The plumbing company returned and this time bypassed the failed pump to resolve the matter. Seems they should have replaced the pump on the initial repair , understanding that it ran dry on the first call out or at minimum , bypassed the pump at that time. Additionally, they encountered this exact failure previously in another unit within the complex. I assert they were negligent in their repair and caused the subsequent and catastrophic water damage to all units and therefore liable. They are stating the pump failure to be a separate unrelated incident and therefore no culpability on their part. What are your thoughts on this?
Smithy 24/09/2018 at 8:48 pm
We have a plumber in to re do our ensuite. We have emptied our bedroom to give him more space. He has damaged a wall- he said the tiles were rotten and it caused the wall is split on the otherside -hallway.
He doesn’t seem to want to fix it unless we pay.
There are also four leaks in the room downstairs.
What are our rights please
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 14/08/2018 at 11:00 am
We don't know enough about the job that he did. You should wait and see what he offers to do to make reparations before deciding what to do next. An independent plumber will be able to look at the work and assess whether your plumber was at fault.
Li3a 13/08/2018 at 2:29 pm
I had a plumber come out on Friday to repair the valve inside my toilet. However on Sunday night (2 days later) I had a leak that brought some of my ceiling down. The plumber cane straight out at 9.30pm
And isolated the issue and was really good about it but blamed a stop valve that has been in my house since new (11 years) saying it has just been wedged in. However I had never had any problems with it and he was the last one to touch it. He has offers to come back and resolve the issue (no mention of costs) I did ask and he said not to worry? Is he liable for the plaster work and electrician. I had to shut all my electrics down as the fuse tripped. Thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 27/07/2018 at 11:43 am
If you feel the plumbers are to blame, you may need to take this to the small claims courts for compensation. The plumber should have liability insurance which should cover this.
Woozle 26/07/2018 at 10:11 am
We had a complete bathroom refit done last year which involved old bathroom being ripped out a wall knocked down (as it was a sep loo before) a new wall and all new stuff put in and floor tiled. We had several problems during the job as it was one guy doing all the work and he was rushed and made mistakes. We had various leaks which he had to fix during the job and then after he came back twice to fix a leak under the sink. It damaged our sink unit and when we contacted them about it they said they would decide what to do and get back to us. They never did despite repeated requests. Cut to a week ago when we found out a pipe under the bath has been leaking slowly for the past year or so. Also possibly due to a shift in the floor from previous water damage, a tile has broken and the toilet waste pipe is now leaking. We contacted them again and they blamed us for buying items without the British standard kite mark. They were all bought from Soak and I've gone back to them to request confirmation about kite marks. They eventually agreed to come back today to pull up the floor and check the extent of the damage, fix the leaks and repair the floor under the tiles. However they did not state they would pull up all the floor (as there has been leaks from loo, sink and bath) and when they arrived today had a big argument with my partner and have refused to take up any flooring at all.
Our insurers won't cover faulty workmanship. We are going to contact APHC (who the plumbers are registered with) but what will they be able to do? Any advice is appreciated. Feel so stressed.
MrsCross 27/04/2018 at 8:24 am
Hi, I had my bathroom ripped out and had visions of a lovely new bathroom but sadly the plumber did a terrible job and much of it is not fitted properly, the shower is wonky and leaks through the ceiling, the bath taps were not fitted properly and move back and forth, the toilet is not fitted properly and so on. I've been waiting nearly a year for him to come back, he hasn't, and keeps saying it's the shower trays fault, not his, that it's wonky, it was never level and moves when you step on it. I am beside myself and have a small child and feel it's dangerous. I paid part of it upfront, £1000, he now tells me he is stopping working for himself and has a new job so can't do it.....he's never finished it. Can I take him to court I took pictures of it and of him fitting the toilet lol.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 27/03/2018 at 3:13 pm
You would have to be able to prove that the problem wasn't there before. Check the terms and conditions of the cover that you with British Gas.
Baz 25/03/2018 at 7:22 pm
I have British gas plumbing cover, and they have been out to repair my shower fixture which is a bat tap/shower mixer located above my bath.
Two weeks after the job was complete I have a brown damp patch on ceiling in room below bath. Called them back out and they say problem is seal around bath is faulty and not covered by their insurance as it's not a "plumbing problem". However I never had this problem before the plumber worked on the bath, are they liable for repair of bath seal and water damage to ceiling below?
LJ 05/03/2018 at 11:06 pm
My ensuite shower tray, door and tiling was replaced two years ago as it leaked and caused damage to the ceiling below. The same problem has occurred today. Can I claim from the plumber who undertook the work two years ago.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 02/02/2018 at 10:23 am
You'd need to seek legal advice. It's almost certainly "theft" of the tap though, if the tenant didn't give permission for its removal/disposal.
nlhome 31/01/2018 at 12:55 pm
A Vola kitchen tap, worth £800 of my rental property was leaking, and my tenant called Pimlico, who replaced the tap with an £80 tap. The tenant made it clear that this was a rental property. The plumber took the Vola tab away, and 'disposed of it'. Pimlico claims no responsibility for the financial loss, as the tap could have been repaired. On what basis can I make a legal challenge against Pimlico?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 30/01/2018 at 3:42 pm
There are various associations but it's only relevant if the plumber in question was a member. You could threaten him with the small claims court?
Yellowsun 29/01/2018 at 5:03 pm
Hello i had a plumber out for 20 mins last week to check if we still had a leak as my hubby had been trying to fix problem. The plumber said there was no leak. Paid 165, we pull up kitchen floor and let it dry out a week later and its still leaking. Ring plumbers bk the guy was supposed to b coming out no call bk in 24 hours. I get someone else to fix it as i have 2 small children and cant have a soaking floor. Its now fixed. Ive rang for my money bk but i keep getting passed to operatives with no luck. How can i escalate this complaint? Is there some sort of plumbing board?
Showerhead 21/12/2017 at 12:14 pm
Hello can any one advise? I had a Burlington shower unit which was about £600 the shower unit leaked and the plumber put a new shower unit in - there was no need to but the shower unit is in an extension and very small, so it was a smaller unit and gave more room so I agreed.

I asked before he removed it if I could keep it due to its value and he agreed.

It has now been "binned" and his company are saying I should have asked before it was removed (I did, but my word against the plumber) and that its not their fault.

I don't expect the full value but I was going to take it to a reclamation yard where I was told i could get around £300 as it is chrome plated, solid brass and enamel and very good quality. i suggests that the company and i split the difference and they robed the invoice down to £2000 (taking £150 of)
elcottero 08/12/2017 at 6:57 pm
I had a kitchen fitted in March 2017.
The company claim to provide excellent customer service and professional fitters.
They sent one guy who did all the plumbing, electrics, joinery and gas cooker installation.
On 6th December 2017 my kitchen flooded as a pipe to the hot water tap came away from the coupling.
The emergency plumber who fixed it said it simply wasn't tightened properly and that the other end of the coupling was also slack and had been leaking "for quite some time".
He advised taking out the units and checking for water damage to flooring and the wall. His opinion was the the plumbing work was not done by a qualified plumber.
Am I within my rights to ask the company who fitted the kitchen to see the qualifications of the installer and what can I do if they refuse?
Can I insist that they take out the units so that I can check for floor and wall damage?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 27/11/2017 at 3:29 pm
She could try and seek some compensation to pay for having the job completely re-done by a professional/alternative company. It's likely that this might have to be done throuhg the court system unless the plumber is willing to settle in order to keep his reputation intact.
Sam W 24/11/2017 at 10:51 am
My mum recently had an accessible bath fitted by a reputable mobility bathroom company, which had good reviews on Which and Checkatrade, she picked one from 3 quotes, not the cheapest but they had a local showroom - so she did all the recommended things to avoid bad experience.
The first time she tried the bath it caused a leak downstairs through the kitchen ceiling, the fitter returned, found the leak (by causing it to flood the kitchen a second time, and fixed it. They have agreed to repair/repaint the kitchen ceiling but claim "The waste pipe dislodged because it had not been pushed home fully when first fitted. The fault was pre-existing to our work and only became apparent after we fitted the bath." In effect they deny any responsibility and appear to feel that undertaking the repair was in effect doing her a favour. Is this a reasonable position for them to take or would it be reasonable to expect them to reduce the final bill slightly to acknowledge the distress and inconvenience?

Once the leak was fixed she tested the shower and then found that seated or standing the curtain doesn't keep the water from running over the sides at both ends, and at one end this means it runs into the newly fitted drawers. They suggest this is very normal and that she uses towels to mop up the water. This seems very odd for a bathroom company specialising in the in the needs of the frail or disabled who have a higher falls risk, have you any thoughts on this?

Overall their tone has been pressuring to receive the outstanding balance, no apology was received until she wrote to them a formal complaint, and in the complaint they seem keener to deflect any responsibility rather than acknowledge she was given poor advice.

Other than not recommending them to her friends, have you any suggestions about how she could get some redress for the inconvenience?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 17/11/2017 at 12:38 pm
Ask the management company - what you can do about the damage to your property, how it will be paid for and how long it will take. Stress that the longer you leave it the more damage will be caused.
Tatiana 16/11/2017 at 2:52 pm
I live in a flat on the first floor and on 19/09 the management company of the building sent a plumber to my property because there was water leaking in a flat on the ground floor. The plumber reported that I have a leak in my bathroom. They didn't investigate any other flats and I was told that I have to get the leak fixed. I had my own plumber to come in and do a full investigation and following that the leak was found in a flat on the second floor.
I need to have the damages in my bathroom repaired as soon as possible.
I have complained to the management company and the maintenance company that they used.
The management company said that they have raised an insurance claim but no repairs have started yet.
What should I do next?
Russo 19/10/2017 at 8:53 pm
Had a new shower tray fitted on 9 November 2016 and last week a crack appeared

In the tray running from the door towards the centre of the tray. The plumber who fitted it has just been round and mumbled under his breath that he should have put a central support structure in place when he fitted it. Is the tray faulty or is the plumber admitting bad workmanship? Question is he responsible for replacing and fitting new shower tray and making good any damage caused by his lack of structural support
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/10/2017 at 3:39 pm
Get an independent surveyor or plumber to take a look (get recommendations from your local trading standards). If the leak has been caused by the original plumber, you may have to consider the courts to recover your costs.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/10/2017 at 3:22 pm
Not as far as we are aware. Check with your water company, local building control department or the HSE.
Sam 17/10/2017 at 5:26 pm
Hi. We have received a water bill from Thames water for £12k and been informed by them that there is a leak under our property. We had a plumber do some work a while back and fear he was caused a leak - what can we do firstly the cost to find the leak and then the huge water bill? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Miapop 17/10/2017 at 9:12 am
My plumber has replaced all pipes in my house, but says he can’t lag them because of health and safety! Is this true?
Tennisnutsmum 15/10/2017 at 12:11 pm
I've had a bathroom fitter to knock my toilet and bathroom together and put in a bath.Set quote was £2000.3 weeks work.He asked if I could pay him 7,7,6 as he progressed I thought it would be ok.Insurance company checked his liability cover and employee cover limit and said he could start when ready.
3 weeks in and miles behind he tried to put me on a day rate,I refused and refused last payment till work completed.
6 weeks in he had left us without a toilet for 4 days,no shower or bath sink for 4 weeks.
Said he was finished on week 6 and wanted final payment and started to take his things out and I could see what a mess it was.
25 faults above ground,(wrong connectors,destroyed shower tray,Door on upside down,normal board in shower,normal grout in shower,electric cable from old towel rail plaster under new wall I don't know if it's live still or if the other end either connected in the wall as a trip switch was off for the upstairs on the last Thur.He said it was nothing to do with him,nothing is connected other than a slow leaking toilet the list is endless.
On Friday I gave him the last of his kit and gave him a list of the things needed doing which I wanted him to pay for when I knew how much it cost -the value of his work.
Nobody wants to touch it and can't get anyone to quote.
Managed to get a handyman round who said with all the faults above ground I shouldn't turn anything on as you couldn't trust the pipework,nothing is finished to turn on anyway.
Im a single mum I have a 13 year old,still no shower ,bath or sink.No family so no help their.
Insurance won't help Zits my fault I booked a cowboy other than help from the legal team as I have cover.
CAB know and have said they will pass to trading standards.Everything need taking out and starting again especially all the pipework and things like the shower replacing.I used the my credit card & debit card to by items and stupidly paid cash which I'd been saving forever.
No idea what to do now.Cant keep sending us both outside for a shower with hugs at 5am ?? Any advice would be appreciated I'm really at a loss :(
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 25/09/2017 at 3:47 pm
If he refuses to give you his insurance details, you may have to consider the small claims courts as your next step.
Sally Hayes 24/09/2017 at 9:00 pm
We had a well regarded plumber replace our bathroom taps. However, he didn't connect the overflow on the bathtubs and water poured through the kitchen ceiling. He came out and fixed the overflow and asked him to arrange to get the ceiling repaired . He said he would but ignored all attempts to contact him until I posted on a local FB page asking for advice ( i didn't mention his name) He then got in touch, asked me to take the message down, and told me to get a quote and he would pay. We got a plasterer out and he told us that in order to repair the ceiling a row of top kitchen cupboards would need removing...so the total cost would be £500. The plumber said it was too expensive and it would have to go through his PL insurance...and that he would send me the details. Needless to say , he hasn't ...what can I do ?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 08/09/2017 at 1:41 pm
You may have to take legal action. Firstly send a letter to his address informing him about this. If there's no response, make an application to the small claims court.
Plumber 07/09/2017 at 8:05 pm
Plumber came my house to replaced a new cylinder from that time I had a problems with hot water pressure already 2 months and he still not fixed my problem.
I tried to contact him but not respond to me
I paid 700 pounds and I'm still without hot water.
Can please let me know what I should do
Thanks
Worried 11/08/2017 at 5:03 am
Plumber came to replace shower faucets and head. I purchased the set from Home Depot. After the plumber completed the job I find the shower head leaks. The plumber wants full payment and refused to fix the leak. And will charge me an extra fee for removing the new faucet and fixing the leak. What should I do
Betz 16/07/2017 at 1:56 pm
I'm redoing my bathroom, put in a new toilet the drain pipe hole is not center in the drain pipe. Now my new toilet keeps leaking. My plumber says he's never seen this before. We built my house it is 29 years old. Can I go back the the company who did the plumbing?
Garry 16/07/2017 at 1:20 am
Hi there
Recently refurbished my bathroom,there were issues about his work.First he mixed up wrong water pipes in shower bath and second there is bad smell coming through toilet.
I made full payment to him by cash and now he is not responding to my phone.
Please let me know what to do
MikeA 11/07/2017 at 1:28 pm
We had a new bathroom fitted just over 2 years ago and at first it was fine. About 6 months ago it started leaking but I have an emergency insurance policy and the plumber called out fixed the issue but stated the run on the shower waste was wrong and may cause issues. Several months later the shower stopped draining and again another plumber stated it was down to the run on the shower waste pipe which in his opinion was a lazy job by the original plumber and required to be put under the floor and totally re plumbed. I cannot find any numbers to recontact the original plumber and do not know if he is even still trading. What can I do?
johnno 11/07/2017 at 9:56 am
We live in a housing association property, we had a refit carried out on our disabled wet room which should have taken 10 days but took 2 months. on completion we kept finding wet patches on the hallway carpet. which at a later date we found out was from seals which they had neglected to put on the toilet waste pipe. resulting in the whole of the wet room having to be ripped out and the hallway carpet and floor. also they had left off seals on the electric shower which was nearly full of water and posed chances of electrocution.
The smell was unbearable when the floor was taken up and it stunk out he whole property all three floors of the flats. I have asked for compensation was I right
M 07/07/2017 at 7:56 pm
We had a bathroom fitted about 15 months ago. After it was fitted the plumber had to come back and rectify a number of issues, the shower door was on the wrong way, the bath screen had been cracked and the bath taps had a problem and it required the bath being removed to fix. Since then the sealant and grouting on the shower have cracked and worn away. The bath taps have started leaking again as they did before and the shower is now leaking, both into the kitchen. We have contacted the fitter and he is reluctant to help. He no longer lives in the area and thinks it has been too long. We feel that as the problem with the bath has reoccurred again and the shower has worn so quickly, he should accept some liability. Two separate plumbers have also told us they think we should be contacting him to have him pay for repairs. Are we being unreasonable in hoping for him to pay for it? Thank you
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 04/07/2017 at 2:25 pm
Unfortunately to get your money back now that you have paid (and without a receipt), you may need to consider court action via the small claims court.
GG 03/07/2017 at 10:48 pm
I asked a plumber to install a electric water plumb for a power shower. He said he will work together with a electrician. He came to fix the water plumb under the bath and install a electric switch. When he opened the water, the trembling noise came out and non-stop. The noise stop when the water is turn off. He said it work with the loud noise.
He said that the electrician will come to text the plumb and issue a safe certificate. He asked for cash but refused to give me a receipt. I paid him all the fees.
He left and refused to answer my call or text. The electrician didn't come. There is not such electrician.
The plumber do the electric himself and I am afraid to use the plumb as the switch is still hanging outside the wall.
What can I do to get back the money. He is a Gas safe registered plumber but work like a " Cow Boy"
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 21/06/2017 at 12:31 pm
We don't really have enough information to advise on this but sometimes if a problem cannot easily be spotted - various fixes have to be attempted to establish what the actual cause is.
JW 19/06/2017 at 3:30 pm
Hi

My cellar was filling with water so I called an emergency plumber. He mis-diagnosed the problem as a broken hot water cylinder, although admitted it was difficult to ascertain, which I agreed as I couldn't see any source of the water. we agreed for him to change it. he completed the work, which appeared fine and more water came. The problem then got worse the next day (an overflow pipe started overflowing, possibly new from the initial work) and I had to call another plumber. He pumped the water out and the ball valve. The water is still going into the cellar and together they have now suggest another solution.

What are my rights when they have misdiagnosed the issue but have completed work? I have paid for the previous work but the problem was not fixed.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 24/05/2017 at 11:25 am
Just tell him you to cancel the order for the parts if they haven't arrived yet and you will ask someone else to do the work. If the parts have arrived, say you want him to fit them in the next 24 hours or you will just find another plumber.
Maggie 23/05/2017 at 5:56 pm
I called a plumber do do couple of jobs for me. He came, went to order the parts and sent me a quote for both jobs. I agreed for the work to be done. I was told the parts were supposed to arrive within 24 hours. That was over a week ago. The plumber kept quiet and only replied to my texts with excuses like he didn't get parts on the next day, he had a flu.. every time he would say he's going to call me on my he next day but he never does. I want to get someone else now. My question is: do I have to inform him first of my intentions (he never bothered to communicate with me unless prompted)? Can he claim the money back from me for ordered parts?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 02/05/2017 at 12:54 pm
It might be worth seeking a second opinion from someone else (an expert) on this. It could be a perfectly valid explanation but another plumber should be able to tell you how likely it is.
El 02/05/2017 at 12:54 am
Recently our combi did not have central heating but hot water was working fine, we called our local plumber identifying the diverter valve was the main problem. Fixed it for £190 but work only an hour then stopped, we called him back to check what wrong and were saying the manifold were leaking so it might be the problem. They are charging £300 to fix this but what happen if that was not the problem? my mum do not wish to pay additional after.

The plumber at our local have the highest reviews that why we ask them to repair
Jay 26/04/2017 at 9:56 pm
We had a reputable plumbing company come out and give us an estimate on replacing all of our drain and supply lines. Drain lines were to be hung from floor joists to correct pitch for drainage and supply line were to be converted over from PVC to pex lines and also hung from the joists to allow room when crawling around in the crawlspace. A few months after the work was completed we noticed a smell of water. I called the company back to see what and were it was coming from. The same plumber stated that the drain line had come apart and that he was going to reglue the lines. Again, months later and we had the same smell of water. This time I crawled under the house to find that he had used electrical tape to hold the drain lines together, which did not hold. Also, found that not all supply lines were not replaced or hung up as charged. Drain lines were not hung either, but instead be I g held in place by old 2×4s and pieces of PVC pipe. So now, not only do I have a bad plumbing job but also a molded crawlspace from months of water draining into it. No wonder my family has been fighting illness.
KM0607 26/04/2017 at 5:40 pm
We've been in our house for 10 years now but have recently experienced leaks from pipework in our hallway and kitchen meaning the ceilings have needed to be cut open to assess damage resulting in two claims. The house was brand new when we bought it but we had an 8 year buildings insurance so we can't claim on this. We are working with our insurance company to resolve the damage but they are requesting we pay two sets of excess when the damage is caused by the same poor workmanship which has since been identified. As well as going through our insurance, do we have any rights in terms of contacting the original builder..?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 19/04/2017 at 12:04 pm
We can't say whether the plumber is liable as it's now a year later and the stagnant water could be the result of a blockage caused by something else. Get an expert to come and take at look at it. If it appears the original plumbing is faulty/ was not fitted correctly, then it's certainly worth making a claim against the original plumber (this will be easier once you've received the evidence from the subsequent "expert")
Issy09 16/04/2017 at 10:46 pm
In January 2016 I employed a plumber to take out my bathroom suite and install it as a wet room, complete with tiling and wet room flooring. The man the plumber got to lay and glue the wet room flooring initially made an error and cut the diaphragm in the drain, causing water to leak through the kitchen ceiling which is directly below the bathroom, and had to cut a hole in the kitchen ceiling to correct this. Although he did return and filled in the hole, I have had to have some further work done to the ceiling, by someone else, at a cost to myself. I now find that when I release water from the wash hand basin it is coming up through the shower drain, and causing an unpleasant smell, which appears to be stagnant water I would say. I feel that either the pipe is blocked or there isn't enough fall in the pipe to take the water away, and this has only come to light recently. Is the plumber liable.
Andy 13/04/2017 at 9:31 am
We have an ensuite toilet which is all tiled in and which started leaking into the kitchen ceiling below. The plasterboard became soggy and discoloured and the plumber was able to repair by removing this and accessing from below. The problem was a seal on the toilet waste. We paid the plumber and then also had to pay someone else to fit a new piece of plasterboard and redecorate. 18 months later we have just noticed that exactly the same thing is happening again in exactly the same place. My questions are, is the plumber liable to repair again without charge and also is the plumber also liable to pick up the costs to replanted and redecorate. It would seem unfair for us to have to pay anything if either the new seal has failed or has come away through poor fitting. Thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 11/04/2017 at 11:45 am
Many people use push fit/shark bite fittings with no problems. If you need a second opinion, it's worth asking other reputable plumbers about this. If your plumber's work is unsatisactory (regardless of the type of fittings used), your consumer rights still apply.
Bighunk 09/04/2017 at 4:53 pm
Had a plumber do a copper re-use of house for 3,500.00 , he cut open walls and both bathrooms and sweated the pipes, after 1 month I started to redo both bathrooms, master bath had water damages from plastic piping, after cutting the floor to remove the bad wood, found the plumber used shark bite material to fit pipes together and did not sweat pipes as I would think that should be done?
Then I called the plumber and he advised that those type of fittings are comparable to sweating pipes is this correct?
Eug 08/04/2017 at 8:07 pm
A month ago we had a thermostatic mixer valve removed from underneath our bath by a plumbing company. This morning we noticed water leaking from our kitchen ceiling, below the bathroom. I removed the bath panel and the new pipe connection they inserted to replace the mixer valve was leaking slowly. We pulled back the flooring and it is totally soaked underneath and spread under the floor into at least 2 other rooms. I called the same company who came out immediately and sorted the leak. They said the leaking part was faulty. My question is, who is now accountable for the damage and repairs cost? We have house insurance with direct line that covers water damage. Many thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 05/04/2017 at 10:42 am
Contact your insurer for advice, they may be able to help tell you what you can do, even if it wasn't your fault. Unfortunately your choices are to take legal action to resolve the squabble between the heating engineer and the plumber and to get compensation or to make an insurance claim.
Jeannie 03/04/2017 at 5:03 pm
2 weeks ago heating engineers fitting a new heating system I asked twice if it was compatible with my shower and twice answered yes, well it wasn't my house flooded that night after hit water feeding up the cold tank the tank being fed by high pressure the inevitable happened.
I don't own my house so they came back with a top plumber got my heating and hot water on, now they are fighting between themselves who is going to put all this right.
It has made me so ill I can't sleep in the house and can only do a few things in here during the day before my hands start to swell as I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis so I'm having to sleep in the summer house to get away from the house, our bedroom was badly damaged and we lost furniture and carpets it seems no one wants to pay for those and all the downstairs flooring is warped and getting worse the smell is awful.
If it's taken up am I in the wrong no one is talking to us we have hard to huge dehumidifiers going but it has cost a fortune in electric where it all came through the drawers I have had to wash everything.
Please someone help me I'm at my wits end, we are insured for contents but I'm loathe to use mine as it wasn't my fault
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 14/03/2017 at 12:09 pm
You should check this with your insurer as many insurance policies do not cover this.
Fin 13/03/2017 at 8:45 pm
We had a new bathroom installed over a 5 month period (?!) this involved removing the bath for a walk in shower new toilet sink etc . The toilet waste pipe was adjusted to fit onto the new loo and the sink pipe replaced . There is very little fall on the toilet waste pipe , it's almost horizontal. I thought I had left a window open somewhere and some small flies had flown in but no , we have small fruit flies coming out of the sink , there seems to be more and more each day and they are coming out from behind the toilet unit . Is this a result of having no fall on the waste pipe and providing a breeding ground ?
Also the shower plug has dropped through below the level of the shower tray and is totally disconnected
I'd really appreciate a steer on what and how long work should be guaranteed, Id like to think it would last longer than 8 months
Cher 13/03/2017 at 12:51 pm
Hi

I got my bathroom replaced and wet walled about 5 months ago. The joiner was supposed to leave access to the cistern but has sealed this up. I now have a problem with the toilet leaking and the water in pan filling too much. I have contacted the plumber Saturday and he indicated he would come yesterday but didn't show and now he is not returning my calls or messages. Where do I stand?
A ewbank 12/03/2017 at 11:56 am
Had a new shower cubic fitted 18 months ago the old one lecked 18 months on the new one is leaking hole in ceiling can i claim again of my insurance
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 01/03/2017 at 11:10 am
It might be better to get a second opinion and then to go back and ask the initial plumbing company to rectify anything. Failing that you could use the small claims court to claim back the cost of employing another company to carry out the repair.
K 27/02/2017 at 11:03 am
Hi, seeking advice:

I live in an old grade A listed building and there is a leaking internal downpipe. We employed a plumbing company to fix the issue but they only looked at the bottom half (going through two flats) of the pipe and claimed it was fixed. A couple of days later storm Doris insured we learnt otherwise. The leak is now much worse and is coming into all four levels of the each property on the adjoining wall. The company is claiming this is a different issue and we will need to pay again for them to come out and investigate and fix this. I think they should be fixing it free of charge given their work has made the leak much worse. What is the best route forward?
Jefnec 13/02/2017 at 1:21 pm
We had a bathroom installed as a result of a leak through our insurance company

Since the work was completed and the plumber paid in full

We discovered faults with the bathroom
1 crack to the bath
2 shower leaking
3 shower head constantly dripping
There are other issues to be repaired but these are the main ones

We keep getting false promises to attend and repair the faults ( 5 cancelled appointments)

What else can I do on the legal front to have these faults put right
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 06/02/2017 at 12:14 pm
You will need to claim directly forom the builders or original fitters for costs relating to this poor workmanship. If necessary, use the small claims court.
Jon 03/02/2017 at 7:33 pm
Hi. Was hoping you can offer some advice please. I live in a new build property which is 3 years and 4 months old. (Out of warranty)
In the first 6-12 months I noticed discolouration of the Lino in the downstairs cloakroom toilet. I put this down to the Lino being of poor quality and just due to footfall in the cloaks. I had planned on tiling after a while so decided to live with it. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I noticed the skirting bird was blown in the corner of the cloaks. I immediately lifted the Lino knowing this was caused by water being soaked up into the skirting. Upon lifting the Lino I found the entire concrete floor was completely soaked to the point it was going under the skirting into the sitting room and under the carpet in the hall way. (Photos taken) I cleaned up the water getting the floor completely dry after a little while. I Knew the leak must have been from the sistern or the feed into the pan as the water that was under the Lino appeared clean and there was no smell. After the floor dried I flushed the toilet again and sure enough the water cane from under the pan. Our toilet sistern is hidden and tiled over with no access. I left it with the plan of taking the pan out and investigating myself a few days later. In the mean time though the company who did the work on our estate had an engineer working in my street I asked him to come and take a look which he did. He took the pan out cutting the silicone away from the back I order to gain access. He immediately said that the leak was coming from the inlet pipe into the pan from the sistern and that the cause of it was the pipe was poorly fitted in the first place and was too short therefore it didn't have an adequate seal so with every flush a small amount of water was escaping under the pan and under the Lino. He said this would have been happening since it was fitted. He told me he would have a word with the girls in the office and organise booking in to get fixed. I was more than happy with this. Over the next couple of days I spoke to the office and after a bit of back and fourth they made an appointment for the same guy to come back yesterday. He did just that he came in the afternoon with a new piece of pipe. I left him to it for half an hour for him to come in and say the piece of pipe he had been given was the wrong size and he had to pop out to get another pipe. I was happy with that as long as it was getting done. Unfortunately he didn't return and no call to say he wasn't coming back. I spoke to the office today eventually getting some information. Apparently it was a specialised piece of pipe which they won't be able to get till next week. I questioned this and made the point that we have been without the toilet with rotten Lino up and I wanted to get it rectified. They simply said they wouldn't be doing it till next week. They also said they would not be footing the bill for the Lino and skirting etc to be fixed and that I should contact the build
rebif456 17/01/2017 at 7:10 pm
HI there,
please help. on 21 November 2016 I appointed a handyman to do a full bathroom refit. In his business card it states qualified bathroom & kitchen fitter. He finished the job on 23 December 2016, well anyway his definition of finish. He left that evening and to be honest because I'm a full-time carer for my husband who has Multiple Sclerosis I was pre-occupied with being a carer and just let Ray carry on doing the job, not really questioning him. I also had flu at the time and a heavy cough which I thought was being caused by brick dust because it started when he started the job. However when he left that evening myself and my daughter went up to clean the bathroom only to find that there was a gay between the bath and the wall tiles (he hadn't filled the bath with water before he put the sealant around the bath). I sent him an image and just a small line to say "Ray, hate to say it but you haven't used enough sealant around the bath". I got a response back and immediately it was really defensive "what gap, I do my job everyday don't tell me how to do my job". I replied zoom in on the image and you will see there's a most obvious gap, anyway this carried on and he refused to put it right and if I knew how to do it I should put it right myself. Having gone round the bathroom he has missed areas of grout around the bathroom, used cracked tiles, when there was 4 spare boxes, left the radiator leaking, the main sink does not drain, he used mastic in areas where he hasn't cut the tile the right size, and the list goes on. I called citizens advice who told me to send him a letter under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and again another letter to give him 7 days to reply. He replied basically saying there was nothing wrong with his work and if I knew better I should do it myself and as he is not a trader that act is not relevant to him. However he has the mistake of having a business card which says Rays Handyman Services with his address etc listed. I have spoken to the Consumer Ombusdman and opened a case and they will now look into it for me. Failing that I have no alternative but to go through small claims court. I was wandering how much I would be able to claim, should I just get 2 quotes and submit them or should I also pit down the fact that the bathroom has bot been used since he left on 23rd December 2016. If anyone has experienced the same problems I would be most grateful for some guidance.
Thank you for reading
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 11/01/2017 at 12:05 pm
You need to discuss this more fully with your insurer. They may prefer to recommend another company or to take a look themselves at the work that's already been carried out.
Messi 10/01/2017 at 9:31 pm
Hi I have recently had to deal with a leak in a customers house the stop cock was turned off whilst I carried out the work.
When I finished I turned the water back on.
I was then called back a few day s later to find the stop cock was leaking, now they want me to replace their kitchen floor ! The work I carried out was in the bathroom and not related in any way to the faulty stop cock ! Am I responsable for the damage caused by the stop cock ?

Please help
milly 10/01/2017 at 3:45 pm
There was a leak from our first floor bathroom to the floor below because the bath seal had failed. By the time it was discovered there was black mould under the bath so everything had to be pulled out & replaced. It became an insurance job but we had to agree to pay a fairly large proportion of the cost & we supplied all new bathroom fittings. The team doing the job did terrible work & caused damage while being in the flat ,,, the plumber was particularly bad causing more leaks not only in the bathroom but a stopcock in the hall cupboard was leaking when he said he'd finished the job. I've complained, said I don't want him back in the house & the company director of the firm carrying out the job have admitted mistakes have been made The problems are still not all resolved & they took 24 days to (supposedly) complete a 10 day job. They have now said I should get my own plumber, decorator etc in to finish things but am not sure that would be best ... they may blame them for causing the errors I've documented the sequence of events for this fiasco ... Can you advise how i should proceed..
thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 12/12/2016 at 2:22 pm
Was the leak because of the plumber's work?
Tomboy 11/12/2016 at 12:34 am
Hi a plumber installed a walk in shower in en suite upstairs in my house
About two months ago and noticed water between tiles and floor moving around drain
Anyway i told him he came bavk removed tiles and dried surrounding area and recemented tiles and regrouted and also reienforced area
He now wants to charge me £480 for work which he attended approx 2 days maybe less
Should i pay him
Sara 10/12/2016 at 10:56 am
Hi. I have a leak in the wall or ground underneath a downstairs bathroom floor. Water has started surfacing on the bathroom floor and on my kitchen floor. I've had plumbers around but they are saying it is a big job and pure off by saying they will have to rip out the whole of downstairs bathroom and dig big holes in the ground. I'm on a low income,lone parent. What do I do? I have home insurance they've sent someone around too and all he did was shut the water at the mains.
Samson 06/12/2016 at 5:19 pm
Mad Macca you should pay for the stopcock replacement not the plumber. At the end of the day he didn't break it on purpose. He needed to turn it off and it broke as it was old and faulty regardless of whether it had been turned off before. It broke whilst not being able to withstand the job it was intended for. Pay up.
Jade13 27/11/2016 at 9:03 am
Hi my partners sisters boyfriend does bathrooms self employed. So we thought we would ask him to do it when we were on holiday as he is a family member. When we got back he told us he done 10 day but actually done only 8 and stayed at our house for 2weeks without asking and lieing about it!!! Is their any legal ways only me going forward with this. As the agreement was only him come to my house and work 9-5 everyday and go home
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 10/11/2016 at 10:10 am
You would need to claim this compensation via the small claims court.
G-Mike 09/11/2016 at 11:42 am
Hi,

I purchased a brand new radiator from a company on EBay in October , I paid £125 to have radiator fitted, a few days ago ( less than 1 month of use) my wife discovered that the radiator was leaking (and quite a lot of rust was seeping out), after investigating further I saw that there is a small hole in the metal work of the radiator. The water that had leaked also warped the brand new laminate floor underneath the radiator.

I sent the company images of the problems caused. They agreed to send out a new radiator, but refused to provide an installer or pay the cost of installation of the new radiator, or compensation for the floor damage caused by their faulty product.

I would like to know is there a professional body I can complain to for compensation for the cost of installation and damage to our floor?

What are my options?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 21/10/2016 at 11:20 am
As it's two years since the installation this might be a bit difficult. You should ask your plumber to provide a written report of the cause of the problem and send together with your photos to the kitchen fitter asking for some compensation. You might need to use the small claims courts.
wetfeet 20/10/2016 at 3:26 pm
We had a new kitchen installed 2 years ago, the whole room was cleared and redone, from ceilings to plastering, wiring, plumbing.
2 weeks ago we were awoken to running water and about 2 inches of water covering the whole ground floor.
a join in the mains water supply, done by the kitchen fitter's plumber had failed. we had a different plumber come to get our water supply back on and he said that there was a part left off the fitting and a rubber washer was misfitted. According to him the joint could have failed in days, months or years.
We have photos that show that the pipes were altered by the company fitting the kitchen. but don't know what to do now as they are saying they have no liability and even want to charge us for replacing the waterdamaged units.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 14/10/2016 at 12:23 pm
If you're not happy with the offer you could consider claiming compensation through the small claims court.
Rebecca Boniface 13/10/2016 at 1:41 pm
In may 2015, a hotpoint engineer repaired my leaking washing machine. Unbeknown to me, it continued to leak for 6 weeks slowly and soaked into my laminate flooring. I complained repeatedly and in Aug 2016 (15mths later!) they have finally picked up my damages claim. I had to do the running around getting quotes and photographs which I was happy to do. Both quotes were £650 for new flooring. Hotpoint have offered me £127! They feel that as the floor is 5 years old they can deduct general wear and tear and that my machine is in an awkward position. I have refused their offer as I think it's an insult! Can you advise me as to what I need to do next?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 11/10/2016 at 12:33 pm
Sorry we're not in a position to give this kind of techical advice. Your local building control officer (who will be based in your council's planning/building control department) might be able to help you though.
Anon 10/10/2016 at 1:29 pm
Hi, I am a support worker and I have a customer who lives in a council property. The gas point and the water point are in the same place so she is not able to have both a cooker and a washing machine installed. I am appealing to the council to have this altered but I wanted to know if this is unsafe to have both pipes in the same place (as it will support my appeal)?
Plumber SP 25/09/2016 at 12:43 pm
Paige. The pipe run mat be too long. There for when the water goes it pulls some of the water out the trap and then letting foul air through. Look into getting an anti siphone shower trap. Or possibly extending the pipe work to get an air admitted valve at the end of the run
dory 23/09/2016 at 6:48 pm
We have just had a new shower fitted and the plumber run new pipes through the loft. 5 days later i noticed a stain on the bedroom ceiling. On further investigation we had a leak, the ceiling in a cupboard showed water damage and I have the stain on the outside ceiling. The plumber has fixed the leak but claims his insurance does not coverage the ceiling damage unless it falls down. Is this correct?
Jowser 30/08/2016 at 3:15 pm
We had a shower fitted in a downstairs bathroom just under 2 years ago. A couple weeks ago water was gushing through out seeling. We got an emergancy plumber in who isolated the leak and turned out it was coming from the pump. I got the company people out as the pump is in Warrenty to find that the plumber who fitted it with the shower had connected it to our cold mains which has blown the seals in the pump. The instructions state not to do this and I'm told it was also on the sticker the plumber had to peak off.

Anyway we called him initially before we knew what had happened to get a few details about the pump of which he answered the call...now he's not answering as I'm guessing he knows he's done something wrong and he's not returning out calls or voicemails. Can anyone help how to find out if he's a member of any bodies? Thinking may have to go down small claims court as we now have to buy a new pump and have his work sorted out ??
Jazz 23/08/2016 at 6:27 pm
I phoned a plumber through an ad in a local paper, he came and I just wanted a simple repair to a tap which needed a new gland, he fitted a ceramic one and prior to this I had turned the water supply off at the pipe. He did the job and as part of it he undid all three joints of the plastic pipe before removing the tap to check it and fix it. That night my downstairs neighbour came to my door and asked if I had a leak, I at first said no then said I'd had a plumber that morning then checked the work to find he had secured the top joint but the two bottom ones were still loose causing the leakage. I got my neighbour to turn the water off and notified the plumber of the problem and he called the next morning and removed the existing pipe replacing it with a copper joint , he charged a nominal amount originally but the second visit was free, who is responsible for any damage to the other flat , he was a reasonable man who made a slight mistake but responded to correct it.
hummingbird 28/07/2016 at 3:15 pm
We had a house built in 2008. 2 yrs ago the clamps used for the plumbing started breaking....there are over 200 of these. We started to replace them and found out they should not have been used as this is the problem with the "c" clamps (I think that is the name) anyway to replace with the better clamps(which are more exp) you have to have a special 200 tool.
My question is....can we sue the builder and or plumber for using known defective material?
Paige01 23/07/2016 at 2:33 pm
Correction **2 90 degree angles not 45 degrees
Paige01 23/07/2016 at 2:27 pm
I had a loft conversion done about a year ago with 1st fix plumbing. A few weeks ago I got different plumbers to install a bathroom suite I purchased the suite online from a well known company. After installing I could smell sewer rotten eggs coming from the shower. The bathroom installer said it was nothing to do with him. The plumber who did 1st fix came and said the shower trap is too shallow so I contacted the manufacturer who say it's nothing to do with them. When I flush the loo the water bubbles slightly and the tiler although not a plumber thought there was contamination of toilet water going back into the shower. The smell is worse now there's warmer weather and it made me sick. All 3 parties point at each other I don't know what to do. The water in the trap seems low but the 1st fix plumber says the shower is connected into the main waste further down away from the toilet. It is a long run from the toilet to the outside of my house and then turns at 2 45 degree angles before getting to the main drain. Looked fir blockages and found none. There are no smells from any other sinks/toilets. Pls help
Duck 20/07/2016 at 8:27 am
Hi. We moved into our new build property three years ago and last week discovered a damp patch on the ceiling beneath our en-suite and subsequent plaster damage.

Investigating, I discovered KITCHEN ROLL and GAFFER TAPE plugging an area of barely noticeable water tricking from the toilet where it was obviously damaged during installation. The water has now got to a point where is closed beneath the lino.

Contacting the builders they just said we were out of warranty - but given the circumstances they'd contact the plumbers. I handwheel hearts anything for a week.

Am I in a position to threaten legal action, when its been three years? I had no reason to check behind that last of the ubend until now.

Please help as we're a toilet down!

Thanks
Ged 14/07/2016 at 12:52 pm
3yrs ago plumber fitted wash basin to wall with just silicone now flexi pipe burst and basin fell off wall taking 8 tiles he says this is common practice no need to screw to wall and firm he works for said the same is this right
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 14/07/2016 at 12:00 pm
As it's over 6 months you would need to be able to prove that the fault was there when the plumbing work was done. When you say you can't get in touch with the plumber, we're assuming he/she is simply not responding to you. If this is the case then you should address a letter asking for the plumber to inspect and discuss with a view to accepting fault and rectifying. If he's/she's a decent plumber (s)he'll have liability insurance. If the plumber will not accept liability, get an independent report from a reputable plumber - if that establishes the fault, then take it to the small claims court.
Annoyed woman86 11/07/2016 at 5:20 pm
Hi we had a bathroom fitted about 7 months ago all seemed great but about 6 weeks ago we noticed damp patches on further inspection the toilet hadn't been plumbed in properly and has leaked all under the floor and has spread to joining room..
We are no longer in touch with the plumber who did it any advice on what we could do will be amazing
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 30/06/2016 at 11:33 am
Get the local water company to check your water pressure, this will help you establish whether it is actually the pressure or faulty workmanship on the part of the plumber. If it turns out to be the latter, you may need to take legal action to recover the cost of rectifying the problem.
Tillz 28/06/2016 at 8:35 pm
Up untill a month ago water pressure was very good and now just shocking the house was built 1year ago exactly been calling plumber for a while he said tell sydney water is pressure from the street no good sydney water said its perfect now he eventually came out yesterday and was acting all dumb and saying that its fine yet you turn two taps on in the house and barley anything comes out then he suggested might be the shower head trying to play me for a fool what can i do is there a way to threaten him with the law or how do i go about this dilemma
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 10/06/2016 at 12:33 pm
In general you would expect a plumber to check all this before starting. Unfortunately if he won't agree to a refund/compensation, you might have to try the small claims court.
Mrs JH 09/06/2016 at 9:51 am
Hi

We had building work done around 7 months ago, during which it transpired we needed a new boiler. The boiler was replaced by a plumber contracted through our builder (who has since gone bust, and is uncontactable). The boiler was not installed properly, and we have not had hot water in the kitchen or utility since, and the boiler is leaking what is apparently corrosive water (over a plug socket!). the plumber also made several other mistakes which we paid someone else to fix as he has been impossible to contact.

For weeks we have been chasing him to come and rectify the fault with the boiler. The boiler should still be under warranty, but we have no paperwork including gas safety. The plumber will either answer his phone and agree to a day to come then never show, or simply refuse to answer his phone. What can we do, or threaten him with to elicit a response? who can we report him to? He is clearly at best incompetent and lazy, or more likely a charlatan.

We need the boiler fixing, but not at personal expense. Thank you
MRS G 08/06/2016 at 10:56 pm
We purchased a shower a while ago and have just had a plumber in to install it. Long story short, he now advises us that actually this shower is incompatible with our gravity fed shower and our existing pump in the loft which feeds our ensuite shower. He says we will need a new processor in order to get this shower to work at an additional cost, potentially up to £300 +. Surely he should have checked all the necessary compatibility before installing it. At least we may have been able to swap the shower or sell it as brand new in box. Where do we stand please.
Mandy99 20/05/2016 at 10:53 pm
My mum had a council grant to convert her bathroom into a wet room which she needed due to her arthritis, the work was completed 8 months ago. Last Monday there was water pouring out of air bricks of mums house, so called plumber that did the wet room, he came to the house (said "I don't know what I'm doing") and ripped the shower, cladding, railing and seat off the wall looking for a leak...it ended up being the stopcock to main (outside). Now wet room is unusable and plumber says he is not paying for the room to be repaired! Need advice, can I take legal action need help
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Shower No More 20/05/2016 at 4:23 pm
Hi, we ordered a complete bathroom suite from a builders merchants and had it installed by a plumber. He finished the installation yesterday and last night I discovered a crack in the stone resin shower tray which is only visible from the front ledge but runs the complete length of the tray on the underside. The plumber is adamant that he did nothing to it to cause the crack & that it is installed correctly, so has no suggestions as to why it may have happened. I have contacted the builders merchants who are contacting the manufacturer on my behalf, but I have been told that it is unlikely that the manufacturer will take responsibility once it has been installed. The crack in the tray will mean that the whole shower (including the tiling) will have to be removed and re-done. We haven't even used the shower yet and obviously can't now, as clearly the tray is not safe to use. Who is responsible for remedying this?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/05/2016 at 2:32 pm
The easiest approach might be to get another professional to take a look and give their opinion on the pump and the reasons for the leak/the fail of the pump. If it transpires that the fault lies with the plumber he should rectify it for free.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/05/2016 at 11:20 am
You would usually have to give the plumber a chance to rectify the work. If this is refused or is not done satisfactorily, you can get the work done by someone else and claim the cost from the original plumber (you may have to use the small claims courts to do so).
Albie 16/05/2016 at 5:41 pm
Hello,
We had a plumber come in to remove and install a new pump, after insuring he took the maximum time he could to remove and install this new pump, the hot water was never right and after a few days there was leak that came through the living room. He came back and said the problem is our pipes though it was the same make pump that he installed. He said he will come back and fix the problem at a cost to us and we will have to get a handyman to remove the tiles in the bathroom so he can gain access to the leak again at a cost to us. Is this right? Should he not take responsibility if the leak occurred after he fitted the pumb?
Jack 15/05/2016 at 8:42 pm
Had old bath took out at Mothers house and shower fitted, There`s silicone all over shower base and screens, screens are not square on base and it leaks, silicone on wall outside of screens plus gaps between tiles and screen inside, holes in ceiling where pipes have gone through, it looks a complete mess, don`t want plumber back as it looks like he does not know what he`s doing, what are my rights.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 12/05/2016 at 1:49 pm
Get another company to come and do the work and then make a claim against the original company.
Kaz 09/05/2016 at 10:32 pm
Had to have emergency response out to a water leak to be told by them the pipe work by the firm who fitted my boiler has been done incorrectly. Thus having boiler isolated now no hot water. We have a week old baby in the house. And no one is looking to sort the problem the firm who fitted my boiler failed to return my call. AA emergency response are waiting on the report. I'm in limbo. What do I do?
Milly 11/04/2016 at 11:14 pm
Hi, I had a plumber replace my bathroom suite last July. The job was meant to be completed within a week. The job ran over.....almost 2 1/2 weeks. I have been sending him messages since August regarding several small issues. He has responded and agreed to come back and see these, to date this hasn't happened. Now I have the shower hanging off the wall and have it held in place with tape! What would be my best route to obtain the bathroom I had hoped for? I have "evidence" of the messages I have received. I now hate the bathroom as there are so many issues with it. Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Lilo4 11/04/2016 at 11:25 am
Hi there
I am in the middle of getting my bathroom completely redone. The plumber had been in and removed the old bathroom and done some pipe work for the new one going in. I live in a split house and have the upper the level. My neighbour from downstairs has said he has had quite a substantial leak from us. The plumber is coming to look tonight but says we are liable. Is this true?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 05/04/2016 at 2:43 pm
If the fault was due to the work carried out by the original plumber you could try and claim the cost of rectifying it back off his insurance?
Mozza 03/04/2016 at 9:45 am
We recently had a bathroom installed by a plumber and three months later a leak was found dripping through the ceiling downstairs caused by the shower, another plumber came in and rectified the problem but at a great cost and taking off tiles etc what we had recently done, is there anything we can do?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 31/03/2016 at 12:09 pm
If they are not communicating, you can try and take court action. The easiest way to do this would be to get another firm to rectify the damage and claim from the original plumber via the small claims courts.
Pops 28/03/2016 at 10:12 pm
Hi there,
Around 2 months ago we hired a plumber to fit a brand new bathroom as the old bath was leaking into the flat below (this was quite urgent as the woman below was 98 and blind and the leak was hazardous for her). This was done but immediately we noticed a problem, the bath and shower would not drain, I.e every time we shower the water comes half way up our legs. We tried to contact the company about this issue but they have ignored us. They have already been paid. What can we do?
Thanks
Suz 13/03/2016 at 3:52 pm
Have just discovered a long term leak at the back of kitchen cupboards. The kitchen was put in 5 years ago. A crack in a pipe has been covered with electrical tape, has been leaking for all this time. Knew we had a problem with damp smell in the kitchen but had been advised to do some work on the out side of the building. The water has been leaking onto copper pipes the splash from the pipes has corroded the internal wall thought to the red brick. The kitchen kick boards are very soggy and alot of the units are showing signs of being wet. Can the person who put the kitchen in be held responsible or can I only claim my own house insurance?.
QV 03/03/2016 at 11:16 am
Hello, a couple of months ago my quite an old boiler started to be a bit temperamental (sometimes had difficulty to turn it on and had to reset it frequently). As the boiler check up was due, I had called a technician in. He checked the boiler and said everything was fine, despite me pointing out the problems. Charged me the agreed rate of £68 and left. Straight after my boiler died and I had to call him back in. At this point he decided that I need to change the thermistor (£90) and everything would be fine. He did that, but the boiler behaved exactly as before. At this point he proposed to change the pump (cca £400), which I refused and completely replaced the boiler for a new one (with a different firm). When I have asked the first technician for a warranty on the work done with the thermistor, but he replied that the thermistor definitely needed changing (although it did not solve the problem as promised and the pump replacement was never mentioned).
What are my rights? Thank you!
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 02/03/2016 at 2:19 pm
Contact your own insurance company for advice, they will be able to tell you what to expect and whether you can force a claim through the plumber's insurance company.
Sarah 28/02/2016 at 10:07 pm
Hi I am looking for some advice. I hired a plumber to refurbish my bathroom. Work was started on Monday however on Tuesday night a pipe fitting came loose and caused a flood. The water must have been leaking for almost an hour. The water caused damage to my kitchen ceiling and walls. My oven hob and extractor fan now won't work because they trip the electricity and the carpet was drenched which led to the floorboards underneath becoming soaked. I contacted the plumber straight away but he did not answer his phone. The next day he came to the house and said he will tile my floor for free - provided I buy the tiles and he will get the ceiling replastered for me. He doesn't want to go through his insurance. As it stands today my kitchen is still drenched. The carpet is still wet and it is damp in general. He has not organised any dehumidifiers or offered anything else other than the ceiling and tile the floor. What should I be expecting from him? Should he not be doing more to help? I feel like I am at a great disadvantage when the leak was not my fault.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 26/02/2016 at 10:56 am
Unfortunately, many plumbers have a standard call out charge which is payable regardless of the work that is done. This is partly to allow for travel time and expenses, the call out fee for a plumber is generally between £50 and £75. Some plumbers are also VAT registered and this will make a difference as well. The best thing to do in future is to ask for details of the charges before engaging a plumber. It's a case of caveat emptor (buyer beware) here unfortunately.
Jimmy 25/02/2016 at 7:23 am
Hi,

I recently called a plumber as the boiler in a house I am looking after overheated and stopped working.

I thought perhaps he could fix it which in theory he would have done but it turns out the pump had gone. Anyway without having the owners consent I didn't want to commit to the "big" job of getting it changed.

Essentially he came for 10 minutes and charged me £100 and left with the boiler still broken.

It's seems steep when the problem still remains and he couldn't fix it there and then?

Thanks

J
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 24/02/2016 at 12:42 pm
Firstly it would be easier if you could arrange for you son to be around with you, when they workmen are, rather than vice versa. Get an expert, to construct a report with details of what remains to be done and an estimate of how much it would cost. Send it to the builder and request that the work is completed by a certain date and say that you will take it to the small claims court if it is not. If the builder does not then complete the work to your standards, employ a different builder to complete them and file a claim for the costs from the original builder via the small claims court.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 24/02/2016 at 10:59 am
We really do not have enough information to advice you properly on this but if you followed the advice of the plumber, he should be responsible for rectifying if it doesn't fit. If the clips broke because they were insubstantial, the panel should really have been returned (with the clips) to the retailer at that time.
dot 23/02/2016 at 2:16 pm
I've recently had a bathroom refurbished .. The bath taken out and walk in shower put in but the pipework was taken across to the other side of the bathroom ..In place of the tiles I have had boards put up ... The person doing the job made a mess and hasn't put the supports for the screens to the shower in correctly .. he has also cut the boards too short and tried to "cover" this up ... My son paid for the work to be done and has made it very clear he isn't happy with the way it has been left and requested numerous times it be fixed and only whilst he is there, but as I am alone most of the time and not willing to be here with them due to previously having him shout down to me and try talk me around into them just basically "covering it all up" They have been back to the house at diff times to what has been agreed and done what they could to get in but have been asked to come back when my son is around to which up to date they haven't ..I have contacted them on numerous occasions through they're fb page and requested they please speak directly to my son and sort this out only to be told the contract (nothing signed or agreed verbally) was with me and they will only deal with me .. To which has been replied that my son paid for the work to be done not me so he is the one to make sure the work is done properly and to the standard expected for the price .. I have emailed and told them my son has sought legal advice and have asked them to respond to him and not me within the next 7 days or we take things further yet they are refusing to speak to him in any way shape or form even though he was the first person to make contact with them and has the original conversation . Where do I stand with this please ? ? ( I have also searched wherever I can to check if he is registered and have drawn a blank )

ps He had given a "verbal 12mth guarentee on the work also ..Thank you for your time One very stressed lady x
Sam1cot1 23/02/2016 at 7:03 am
We've recently had a plumber instal a new bathroom the fitted the bath and the clips for the bath panel were screwed to the floor ready to slot the panel on (we had a problem with the taps so this needed to be fixed first) I then had new flooring laid and they cut around the clips so it would be a snug fit when the taps were fixed the panel was put back on by the plumber who initially broke the clips said they were rubbish and we needed to use a block of wood to do the best Job ! I gullibly accepted what he said and he left, since then when I've tried to attach the bath panel myself it's quite obvious that the clips were not placed in the correct position if the panel sits within the clips it's at a tilt and it the panel is placed straight then the floorboards are visible where the laminate has been cut ? My plumber will not accept what I'm telling him and he's currently getting me a new bath panel to try which was over a week ago ! What i want to know is who is s fault? And should I be claiming for a new floor from him ? As we presumed the screws were originally placed in the wrong place and we have paid him to FIT my bathroom
Thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 22/02/2016 at 12:32 pm
Do you have a receipt for the work that the plumber did originally? This would normally say something like "supply and fit Valiant Boiler" etc. The boiler company would accept that as sufficient for the warranty purposes. In fact if you give them the serial number they should be able to establish the purchase date. Most individual plumbers who fits/instal boilers don't guarantee their own work anyway in our experience. So we'd advise you to perist in getting the proof of the purchase date in order to retain your parts warranty and then get another (Gas Safe registered) plumber to service your boiler and check the installation etc.
Andy5629 20/02/2016 at 9:11 am
Hi our boiler went into lf mode Wednesday night I called a plumber out and he replaced a spark generator and probe and turned pressure up got home and still same fault but had 3.2 bar of pressure and had water leaking out of boiler itself he came out yesterday turned pressure down which he has charged me to do and replaced a resister get home still not working but have 2 bills for just over £300 do I have to pay these as he still hasn't fixed fault and I know can't get him to answer phone or reply yo messages
Ed 19/02/2016 at 3:10 pm
Hi there,

I got my new Vaillant boiler installed by a local plumber in Aug.2014, the service is including register my boiler with Vaillant for warranty's purpose. I also had the same plumber serviced the boiler in Oct 2015. Now the boiler's gas valve failed ( investigated by the same plumber who installed and serviced the boiler). I phoned up Vaillant for competent replacement as it's still in free warranty period ( 5 years), and I am told the boiler has not been registered at all.

I called the plumber and texted him about the situation, and he went quiet and never answer the phone. I have to manually restarted the boiler every day which is a pain in the back. Vaillant said if I can provide the installer's information they can register it for me, and I can NOT find the plumber is on gas safe list. I went back to the contract for the boiler installation and google the company, found out the trade was dissolved in September 2014 right after he fitted my boiler.

How come he can still service my boiler if he is not longer gas safe registered and not longer operate the plumbing and heating service. And obviously he didnt registered my boiler back to Aug 2014 and now he is no longer qualified to register my boiler, this leaves me in a devastating situation as I will not be able to get my boiler registered for warranty purpose, and no one would be responsible for the all heating work just been done in less than 2 years.

The plumber never answers my phone call now, please help to share your ideas how can I get this sorted.

Regards

Edward
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 19/02/2016 at 9:56 am
We don't have the full details of your circumstances. To establish whether the hole in the rotten pipe was unavoidable, you may have to get a second opinion from an expert. Ask the original plumber if his insurance will cover the damage. If he refuses to pay, then you might want to consider phoning your own home insurers for advice, or taking it to the small claims court.
csw 18/02/2016 at 3:40 am
I had a plumber come out and snake/auger my toilet because it was clogged. He put a hole in the pipe. He said its my fault cause the pipe was old and that he would credit the service fee towards the repair of the pipe. My pipe was not leaking before he came, how can he now charge me for its repair. Furthermore the pipe leaked on to my washer and dryer. My dryer is not working now. And I have an inch of blue toilet water pooled in spots on my basement floor. Does that need professional cleaning and shouldn't plumber be responsible for that?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 15/02/2016 at 10:44 am
The registering body for gas installers is Gas Safe not Corgi. By law, all engineers undertaking gas work in the United Kingdom must be registered with Gas Safe Register It would be advisable to get a GAS SAFE registered person to take an independent look at this. Here is more information on the Trading Standards Website
Not happy southend 12/02/2016 at 8:06 am
Hi, we are insured with Corgi and had the normal once yearly service and no sooner had they left from this year's service visit the radiators downstairs were not heating up but they were all the previous week. We called them and asked for someone to come and have a look. A plumber was sent via Corgi who immediately informed me that all my pipework in the boiler cupboard was
"Piped up all wrong" and that was without him doing anything else upon just opening the door, it was apparently that evident, Point 1. He went on to say that the boiler (Valiant) was not maintaining temp due to the heat exchanger. Point 2. He then said that the pipe work would need to be "fixed" before the boiler would be able to maintain temp as the system was sucking in air and asked if we heard the pipes banging to which I replied not not at all, Point 3.
After he had left and left me with a the thought of spending £1300 to fix it even though we are insured, he said we weren't covered as it was a legacy issue!
I called corgi and asked for a second opinion and as soon as the 2nd plumber opened the boiler cupboard door said exactly the same as the first - it's not piped up right mate, the system is sucking in air and I bet you get loads of pipes banging when the system fires up right? NO we don't. This plumber said a power flush was needed as well now to fix the problem to which-at £475 seemed a reasonable fix compared to the previous estimate.
He poured some kind of fluid into a downstairs radiator and said it would take a week / 10 days to work through our system and he would come back. A week later that radiator he used had not been hot once and has never been anything other than cold since he touched and it was by far the hottest rad downstairs! We called him and he told us to turn all the other downstairs rads off to ensure the flow of water went to that rad. We did this for 3 days and nothing!
He has been unable to get back to us to finish the job as he is no going on holiday!
Now my concern is that we have lived at the property for nearly 5 hears, have two small children, had regular service visits each year, 2 of which from Corgi (the current insurer) and at no point during any of those visits has anyone ever mentioned this apparently obvious pipework issue and have always said everything is fine and continued to take my insurance money! Since the plumbers have been to fix a problem we now do have the pipes banging when the system fires up in the morning to such a degree that my daughter can't sleep in her room, it wakes everyone else up as it sooooo loud it sounds like the roof is coming in. The radiators downstairs take hours to heat up and sometimes don't now while the rads upstairs fire up seemingly ok. Where do I stand with this as none of these problems were there until the plumbers came to the call out. None of this was raised to me during any of the service visits and now my heating system is actually broken?!
Ninsi 29/01/2016 at 2:48 am
First of all please don’t hire plumbers without making proper inquiry . Because prevention is always better than cure. So please note to hire the best plumbers. If any mistake happened , it will be very difficult to clear up and even simple fixes can lead to costly mistakes . We got the help of ‘Brothers plumbing ‘ for doing the plumbing works of our new house. Always call a licensed plumber because they are usually required to carry insurance and unlicensed may be using outdated methods, which can lead to costly mistakes.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 26/01/2016 at 2:36 pm
The plumber should come and repair the pipework free of charge. He should have insurance that will cover the repair for the damage itself. If not, you may have to resort to the small claims court.
AG 25/01/2016 at 7:23 pm
We had plumbing work to completely rejig the pipework under the bathroom floor, prior to us installing the units ourselves. A month after the work we were surprised by water flooding through to kitchen ceiling, underneath the bathroom.

By this point the bathroom had still not been finished and so the plumber came back and was able to to go through the floor boards again to mend a fitting that had come apart.

This has now happened again, but with the bathroom now completed and tiled the only access will be though the ceiling of the kitchen. This is going to incur costs relating to putting the ceiling right.

Am I within my rights to ask to plumber to meet this (assuming he answers his phone and comes back to repair the work)?
Stu 22/01/2016 at 6:13 pm
I called a reputable plumber to carry out work In a flat I tent out. It was to replace the bath/sink/toilet like for like and install a pipe coming out of the wall for installing a shower at a later date. I was given a quote for the supply and install which I agreed to. I went offshore to work and come home to a bill £450 more due to repairing a broken drain pipe under the floor and the subcontract of a joiner for work to which I never consented to and the pipe for the shower was not installed either. Am I within my rights to make some form of complaint or a reduction of the cost at least?
lol 07/01/2016 at 4:08 pm
Had new boiler fitted Tues/wed in same place as old one. Found 2 leaks and my worktop cut through. Phoned the firm,they said its where new pipes connect to old pipes and not their responsibility. The Plumber told his boss he left the job knowing there was a leak. But didn't tell me, my hardwood floor is now lifting.what is my best plan of action ?
Nk 18/12/2015 at 2:27 pm
I recently had to plumber come out he told me my boiler needed a new circuit board and that the job was to big for him so I called a national company they told me that if they ordered a new circuit board then if that wasn't the problem I would have to pay for it but if they sent there plumber out he would confirm what it is and they would order part so the plumber came out costing us £95 he said it was a new circuit board they ordered circuit board but when they fitted it be said it was not the board and that this job was going to cost us 1000's of pounds and that we had best go back to the people who made the boiler pottertons! So we paid this company £798 in total and still had no boiler. We call pottertons they was fantastic came out they changed a fuse which cost £3 and Said that was al that was a matter with the boiler. I had said to the company that charged us all this money had he checked the fuse and he said it wasn't that. I have called and emailed the company and have been told they are looking into my complaint. I have sent them the report from pottertons and now they won't take my calls or answer my emails. What can I do now??
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 17/12/2015 at 2:20 pm
Who did you pay for the installation? If you paid the Kitchen supplier for the whole job then they should resolve it for you. If you paid the plumber directly then you need to establish whether this was faulty workmanship etc. The work carried out should have been god enough to last longer than three months, so under the Consumer Contracts Regulations/Sales of Goods Act, you should expect some redress. You could try contacting your home insurance company for their advice/opinion.
tallgeezer99 16/12/2015 at 10:11 am
I recently purchased a new kitchen from a retail supplier and they sub-contracted out the fitting and plumbing work to a 3rd party.
This was installed/completed in Sept this yr. including ripping out all pipe work from under the sink and putting new pipes/fittings, for new sink, existing dishwasher and washing machine, waste, etc.
We came down last week to find water was coming through the laminate floor boards near the sink when you stepped on it. I turned off the water supply, dried off what I could under the sink, turned on the supply and could clearly see water coming out of the washing machine cold water feed connection.
I turned off the isoluation valve and the leak stopped and called the kitchen company.
They advised they would need to contact the fitter, who has since called and advised me to take off the pipe and screw it back on (hand tight).
I've done this and no longer have a leak, but have water damaged laminate.
The kitchen company said I'd have to discuss this directly with their fitter, as he did the plumbing and have told him he needs to speak to me.
He's just text to say he will be out to have a look at the pipe to ensure no further leak, but if the leak was on the inlet hose he doesn't understand how anyone is to blame.
Any advice / thoughts?
JnJ 02/12/2015 at 8:24 am
There was a valve in the original bathroom but this was replaced and relocated by the plumber installing the bathroom. We didn't know the reason for the continuing smell until recently when another plumber came to see if he could solve the problem. He diagnosed that the valve was incorreclty located .
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 01/12/2015 at 12:32 pm
This would depend on whether the valve was already in place before the bathroom was fitted. Even so, after almost five years it would be difficult to get the original plumbers to rectify this unless you can prove beyond doubt that this was caused by them and they will question why you haven't addressed it sooner.
JnJ 30/11/2015 at 11:17 am
We had our bathroom refurbished in April 2011. We have had a number of problems with leaks etc since then. Some of the problems were rectified by the installing company early on but we have used local people to rectify other matters. However we still have some leaks from time to time. The main problem has always been that there has been a smell from the drains. We raised this issue whilst the bathroom was being installed but were assured that everything was installed and working properly. The smell, although intermittent, has continued. A plumber recommended by a friend has now been to look at the problem and has advised us that the air admittance valve should be installed above the level of the basin spillway but has been installed at floor level and the only solution is to take out the fitted bathroom to put right and then reinstall.
What claims do we have against the company which installed the bathroom?
cicime 07/11/2015 at 12:14 pm
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I asked my plumber who have used before to fit a new bathroom but instead of doing it himself he bought in a helper and then he left him for the rest of the day to do the job. He told me he had emergency callouts, First the helper started with the new loo he slipped and put is spanner through the side of the new loo not a good start because he had to replace,
He did the job and then the plumber I thought was going to do the job turned up late afternoon, put in a towel rail and did a good job of that,
The next morning I found water all over the bathroom floor the toilet is leaking water from the cistern and I have had to switch off water to it .The bath copper pipework looks bent also leaking on the floor at the joint. The basin is leaking from the waste when I empty it.
Also a couple of chips on my new floor tiles.
I managed to get the basin fixed by my friend’s son. He had a quick look at the toilet and said he could not fix because the donut was missing and the toilet had not been put together properly.
I have contacted my plumber (via text) and he has told me quite casually that he will come around the end of next week because he is busy with his customers. I then texted again and said I really need my toilet and can he come sooner at least for that. Bearing in mind I have recommended him to loads of people he texts me and said he has no confidence in me anymore. He also said that if he came out I would have to pay him more money.
I don’t know what to do I am a retired lady living alone and don’t know how to fix this problem,
Please help
cicime 07/11/2015 at 11:51 am
I asked my plumber who have used before to fit a new bathroom but instead of doing it himself he bought in a helper and then he left him for the rest of the day to do the job. He told me he had emergency callouts, First the helper startet the new loo he sliped and put is spanner through the side of the new loo not a good start because he had to replace,
He did the job and then the plumber I thought was going to do the job turned up late afternoon and put in a towel rail and did a good job,
The next morning I found water all over the bathroom floor the toilet is leaking water from the cistern and I have had to switch off the bath copper pipe look bent also leaked when I emptied the sink
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 05/11/2015 at 1:57 pm
Yes £35 is quite reasonable for a call out etc.
MsA 05/11/2015 at 9:27 am
I recently had a plumber come out to look at a loo that wasn't flushing properly... I had told him that there wasn't a blockage taking the waste & water away, but that I felt that the flow of water from the cistern wasn't strong enough to force any waste out of the bowl and on its way. The toilet has been working properly in the past but has become a problem over the last couple of months.
The plumber came out and advised me that there was no exiting blockage from the bowl onwards (which I already knew) but that he had adjusted the amount of water that the cistern held to the maximum (this made no difference) but that my only option was to replace the whole toilet. His invoice was £35 for this. I wondered if there was more that I could do, and bought some 'serious' limescale removing solution which has made a significant improvement to the problem.
My question is do I have to pay him the full invoice amount despite him giving me incorrect (and potentially costly) advise. I realise that we're not talking huge amounts here, but feel that he was hoping to have to replace the whole loo when that doesn't appear to have been necessary.
Thanks!
melg1962 31/10/2015 at 12:26 pm
My landlady had a new boiler fitted in my home 4 months ago, this week the seals have blown and the boilers leaked everywhere. As the plumber bought and fitted the boiler is it fair for him to expect myself and my landlady to keep chasing up the boiler company, already being 5 days without heating or hot water.
Barbara 26/10/2015 at 5:18 pm
Back in 2007, we had a combi boiler installed by a professional plumber. Another plumber who has serviced the boiler yearly has informed me lately that the overflow pipe was not installed which, in his eyes, was a major fault and could result in the ceiling below to be damaged in case the boiler overflows. I have texted the plumber about the issue but they haven't returned my call yet. What can I do?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 23/10/2015 at 10:17 am
Tell your friend to contact the local council (environmental health department) and give them the details. They can arrange a Housing Health and Safety Rating System (HHSRS) report which is used to assess houses to ensure that they have no serious hazards. The Local Council will rely on this inspection report to take action against Landlords whose properties are hazardous and ensure that they are made safe. If your landlord will allow, you could also ask for an independent Gas Safe registered inspection.
MG1 21/10/2015 at 12:38 pm
A friend's landlord decided to fix his boiler himself rather than have a professional do it. My friend then received a HUGE electricity bill. Upon contacting the provider they noted a spike in usage correlating with the botched repair. The amount is over £500 when he usually pays £24 per month. His letting agency keep changing their mind about responsibility of payment. Meanwhile the energy company have taken an installment of £140 from my friend.
What can he do?
Thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 16/10/2015 at 9:28 am
If the work is faulty you can ask that it's rectified. If it's not, then get someone else to do the work and file a claim in the small courts against the plumber. Make sure that the plumber was aware of the length the fittings needed to be etc.
maybe1day 15/10/2015 at 12:22 am
I recently had a plumber bust my wall open to fix a leaky shower/tub...the fixture was out of date, unable to repair the wall we had another company come in an make it right they did a beautiful job... found out the plumbers fittings were short an needed to be extended 1st he agreed to come bake an make it right then flaked saying he was doing us a favor an he wasn't going to fix it that can't be right I payed a nice amount of money for the plumbers work
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 14/10/2015 at 2:19 pm
No, if you have evidence that they acted fraudulently, then you should not be expected to allow them to rectify the work. You can try suing for the work they claim to have done but didn't, you'd need advice from a solicitor on that.
barbara 13/10/2015 at 9:53 pm
I had a sewer leak in my master bathroom and had to call out a plumber on an emergency. He ran a camera down and said my pipe was broken. He said that he would have to break up the cement on the out side of house and put in a poly-liner. He quoted me a high price because this liner was so expensive to put in. After the work my insurance agent questioned the poly-liner work and told me he thought the plumber may have lied about what they did. I paid another plumber to put a camera down the pipe and found that they did not install a poly liner, so they had lied about the poly-liner but had charge me for it anyway. The new plumbers also said that the pipe was still so rough inside that they either didn't do a hydro jet like they claimed or they did such a poor job it has to be done again. He also said that there was no break in the pipe like the other plumber claimed. I was also told that I paid about 450% too high for the job. It was an emergency and it was too time consuming to get other quotes. They did install a clean out drain but still not sure if I even needed it or not. I don't want these liars on my property again but they are telling me that they have the right to see if they can fix it first. Every time I talk with them they change their story. Do I have to let them back on property to fix it? Can I sue them for the cost of the full bill even if they did some work that may have been needed? I am Leary about paying them anything because I now don't trust any thing that they claimed they did do. Please let me know your advice because now the old plumbing company is threating to sue me. Barbara
chris brown 12/10/2015 at 10:53 pm
hi , i had a new kitchen fitted 2 months ago by a company who used a sub contractor plumber to fit my hob as part of the contract with the kitchen. i asked him to tidy up the pipes for the sink while he was there which he did free of charge and no contract was made , 2 months later one of the fittings blow of and flooded my kitchen , is he liable for it after all this time and if i dont have a contract or any money was handed over ?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 12/10/2015 at 2:16 pm
You should try pursuing this via a private claim, but you will need to be able to show evidence of negligence on the part of the plumber.
Annoyed 11/10/2015 at 6:29 pm
Had new combination boiler installed plumber left gas pipe undone causing gas leak. Should I expect compensation?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 09/10/2015 at 10:38 am
Get an independent expert in to assess what is wrong and who is at fault. Then pursue a claim in the small claims court if the plumber will not compensate you. The plumber's insurance should cover this.
kerr 08/10/2015 at 3:03 pm
I have had considerable renovation work completed on my house. My original plumber went into liquidation and disappeared owing lots of money. My second plumber ( who was located through Google search) was tasked with the plumbing of two sinks, taps and underfloor heating in the new kitchen extension. It would appear that he has wrongly hooked up the water supply from the radiator system to my sinks thinking that he had hooked up the mains water supply. The problem is he had not tested the supply and now than the floors have been tiled with very expensive stone tiles he has no idea where the mains supply is. He is denying it's his fault. I am left with no water supply to my kitchen and any remedial work will be costly.
Where do I stand legally?

Regards
Ftarr 17/09/2015 at 11:52 am
We had what we believed to be a slow leak above our kitchen window from either the cold or hot water pipe. We contacted a plumber who came out at a prearranged time- we lifted floor boards upstairs and he felt around and stated there was no leak. He said it must be penetrating damp (our house is only 10 years old so we thought this seemed strange) he left after less than 5 minutes. We received an invoice 2 days later for £72.
We had a damp specialist out who immediately said that's a leak.
We know have a second plumber out who felt same area of same pipes and found the crack at the bend and is replacing the pipe.

Do we pay the first plumber a penny? It was over priced anyway, he missed the leak which in turn has cost us £25 for damp man to come out unnecessarily plus a period of a week of more leaking and further damage to our kitchen.
Do we have grounds to refuse to pay the invoice?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 10/09/2015 at 10:53 am
You'd need to get an expert opinion on this. Unless the plumber actually had to connect to the pipes connected to the radiator in question, it does not necessarily follow that he should have checked in case vibrations had worked a nut loose on the other side of the wall. It may be that we have misunderstood what you're saying but as we cannot it see the work it's a little difficult. An expert will however be able to take a look and tell you. If it is concluded that the plumber is directly at fault, then of course you should ask him to claim from his insurance to cover your costs.
Bethan 09/09/2015 at 10:01 am
We are replacing our kitchen and had to have some of the existing pipes chased into the wall. The wall the work was done to has the living room on the other side with a radiator on. The work was done and everything seemed fine. Several hours later I un-taped (tape to keep the dust out) the door to the living room and found water pouring out of the radiator. The carpet was soaked and there were black marks from the dirt out of the radiator. The nut had come loose with all the drilling, cutting of pipes etc. on the other side of the wall. I tightened it back up and stopped the water but the carpet was a mess. I text the plumber straight away to let him know what had happened and mopped up as much water as possible. He replied saying he knew someone who come in to remove the water/clean the carpet. They came the next day removed the water and did an initial clean but it has to now dry and they will come back to do a full clean. I was out when this happened and the plumber said he would go halves on the cost of the carpet cleaning to my husband. I however do not feel we should pay at all as the leak was cause by the work he carried out and he also didn't check the other side of the wall at all. The chasing out was very heavy work and the vibrations could be felt through the house so I would have thought due diligence would include checking everything on both sides was ok?

The other issue is until the carpet has been fully cleaned I don’t know that it is ok. So the cost of the carpet if it need replacing may also be in question here. Again I do not feel I should pay or claim on my insurance. Are accidents like this not the reason plumbers have public liability insurance?

I have not yet paid for the work (nor has he asked yet). Do I withhold payment until the carpet situation is clear and is he liable of and costs incurred?
Cust1 05/09/2015 at 10:09 pm
Called gas safe engineer due to gas leak. Replaced pipes and then drilled through electric cable (directly above power sockets. He called a electrican and is saying that I will have to pay to lift the floorboards etc to replace the damaged cable. Electrican has said it should have been obvious to the plumber to check but I am left feeling unsafe and unsure if it is reasonable for me to expect a gas specialist to check what seems like a very fundamental issue before drilling.
joan 04/09/2015 at 7:07 pm
I called a plumber because I had no water . I have a 125 ft drilled well with a submersible pump. The plumber checked everything up top and said he had to pull the pump. He got the pump about 35 ft out of the well and said there wasn't enough water in the well. He put the pump back down and said call the well driller the seams must of closed off. A week later the well driller came and checked the well . He broke off the pitless adapter getting the drill down and found no problems. The drill went 125 to the bottom and the well was producing 5gpm like it did from day one. The well is only six years old. The plumber came back , pulled the pump and finally check it and it was defective. If had he checked it the first day I wouldn't of needed the well driller and instead of being out $1,100 for the driller and no water for 14 days it would of been fixed on the first day. .To add insult to injury the plumber sent a bill for $1,900. Do you thing I have a case for small claims court ?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 27/08/2015 at 10:26 am
This all depends on whether anything was done to the pipes in question when the boiler was fitted or whether the leak may have been there anyway. You insurers may be the best place to start.
chelle 25/08/2015 at 5:37 am
Had new combi boiler fitted on Monday , on Tuesday contacted fitted to say pressure dropping all the time having to open valve 2/3 times a day , on Wednesday he came back and put leak stop chemicals in the system and said this should be fine now, later I messaged him to say pressure still dropped and fault showing , later that night water poured through living ceiling and ceiling fell through ..... He came the next day and fixed the leaking pipe under the floorboard my question who's responsible for the damage to the ceiling should I claim from my insurance or his insurance , could he have found the leak ? Rather than just putting chemicals in
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 29/07/2015 at 2:33 pm
@jez. You could get someone else out to re-install it and claim the cost back off the original plumber via the small claims court. You should report the plumber to your local Trading Standards Office as well.
jez 28/07/2015 at 4:16 pm
We had a wireless thermostat fitted about 2 months ago. It has a mind of its own. Had the guy out who fitted it twice. He says both times it's a problem with the timer and works fine. It does in the day but on the evening it has a mind of its own. So much so that it can't be turned down and gets dangerously hot and has to be disconnected. It remains disconnected. Told the plumber about the problem and my concerns about overheating. His response "he'd never heard of anyone dying of sweating. This afternoon he told me to get lost. That's putting it nicely btw. I paid £170 for the thermo and installation. How will I go about getting this back.
Thanks
Dannyjs86 19/07/2015 at 9:56 am
I have recently had a new combi boiler, radiators, thermostatic taps fitted on the bath and lastly a waste water sytem under the bath. Since fitting, there has been a leak from where the pipe meets the bottom of the tap on the bath and this has leaked into the kitchen, possibly damaging a small corner of new plaster. The fitters are a reputable company and came out to fix this (after a grumble saying they didn't fit the pipe going into the tap therefore it is not their fault) They fitting a new 'push fit' but the leak has continued! My thoughts are they are responsible for correcting this leak as they have changed the taps which created the leak? Also where do I stand with claiming for the damaged plaster and what is the best route for this? Many thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 24/06/2015 at 2:40 pm
@julie. Pass this information on to your insurers who may be able to take it up with the original installer.
julie 20/06/2015 at 3:51 pm
I had a bathroom refit in April 2014......14 months on & I have had to call emergency plumber as water leaking through kitchen ceiling from bathroom. My emergency insurance cover sent a plumber who stopped the leak although said this was down to poor workmanship of bathroom fitter and advised that pipes have been fitted in correct. Is this something the original company should fix? Will my bathroom still be within warranty?
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 15/06/2015 at 2:14 pm
@Emm. A civil action via the courts might be your best route to compensation.
Emm 10/06/2015 at 10:58 am
My tenant had a blocked sink and I called a plumber I found online with good references. He tried various things then (unknown to us all) poured drain acid down it, leaving a few inches in the bowl. A week later and a water jet-blasting firm came to fix the blockage. The man was horrified and told me it had burnt through his T shirt and if my tenant had put hot water in there it could have burnt her very badly. The sink is completely corroded too. What is the best way to approach this? Any help, please.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/05/2015 at 11:43 am
@gillp. No you wouldn't really have a case here, as this is part of the research you'd be expected to undertake. If you had specifically asked for advice and been given it...then you'd stand a much better chance.
gillp 13/05/2015 at 12:29 pm
Hi
I had a new bathroom fitted. In the estimate I was quoted for a bidet and toilet. In the range chosen the only bidet is a back to wall, but there are two versions of toilet, one back to wall and one open back. The estimate didn't specify which of the two toilets but I assumed it would be back to wall to match the bidet.
They fitted the bidet and toilet and then I noticed the toilet was an open back. I queried it. They tell me that a back to wall wouldn't have worked in my bathroom, and that "in the trade" unless you specify back to wall, it is assumed to be open back.
This seems to be the case on the manufacturers website where the back to wall is described as such whereas the open back one simply gives the toilet range name.
I don't like the toilet supplied as the open back is very open and would like to change both the bidet and toilet.
I have offered to cover the cost for a new bidet, but feel they should contribute something towards the cost of replacement toilet since they did not make it clear in the quote which toilet it was. Do I have a case? Thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 18/05/2015 at 10:30 am
@Steve. You really need to establish what caused the fault and whether it's the same one that has caused the second incident.
Steve 12/05/2015 at 4:19 pm
A plumber/builder, has replaced an en suite & the flooring, as well as the ceiling below. This was undertaken do to there being two slow leaks, one from the toilet and one from the shower tray. 8 month on I now am seeing the same leak marks & essentially I'm left with the original issue.

Surely there is a duty of care, to fix if the same issue has occured to what they were fixing?? Who is liable and what is the best way of getting the work corrected?

I don't feel like I should pay anything unless there is a clear understanding that another fault is the cause.

Any advice
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 30/04/2015 at 12:45 pm
@Jules. Your boiler installer should have completed all this work when fitting the new boiler (and removing the old one). So they are responsible.
Jules 25/04/2015 at 1:36 pm
Hi, please can help? if you have an old boiler removed and a new boiler fitted and after a few months you detect a leak that turns out is due to the old filling loop from the old boiler not being capped off, whose is responsible? myself for not telling the plumber where the loop was or the plumber? many thanks
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 13/04/2015 at 1:46 pm
@Linda. How much did you pay to rectify the problem? Deduct that from whatever the plumber is asking for, explaining why.
Linda 10/04/2015 at 4:46 pm
I had a guy in to do my kitchen he then got a plumber in to sort the taps out under the sink and replumb the dishwasher and washing machine. There ended up being a leak from the washing machine which I did not notice until the kitchen floor was wet and the tiles lifted. I contacted the kitchen guy immediately he never got back to me so I with held some of the money from final payment and I wrote to him to contact me . Nothing. Now 5 months later a bill has come in from the plumber (I never knew who he was until the bill came in) wanting payment. Now I don't know what to do? Do I pay him? What about the floor ?
Karina 08/04/2015 at 1:16 am
Hi, so my mom is kind of a cheap skate and she owns a small hotel, she ran into some issues with her pipes, they were leaking. And it was an emergency, cause it was Easter and we were leaving to go to family, any way, so a guy that lived on the premises offered to do it. No price was negotiated or discussed. Then he demanded money before the job was even done at an hourly rate of R150 and a total overtime of R 650 for what I can only imagine was an extra four hours in total plus a call out fee of. R 950 which I know is total bull, cause there was no travelling involved. I don't even think he is a qualified plumber ...any advice on correct estimate or action to take??? PS he is a huge temperamental guy.
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 03/03/2015 at 11:39 am
@Custdiss. You may need to get a second opinion to establish where the leak is coming from (i.e pay another plumber to take a look). If it's clear it's down to the work done by the plumbing company then you could try and claim the cost of the repair from them via the courts. Either way, let trading standards know if the company is unwilling to cooperate.
Custdiss 27/02/2015 at 10:00 am
Hello,

I had a bathroom fitted 2 yrs ago. The shower is now leaking into the kitchen below. I contacted the company and they sent some one to re seal it. That didn't work. Now there is a leak intermittently whether the shower is being used or not. The plumber had moved the toilet and sink to another wall and fitted the shower in at the time of the original job, so it is the plumbing of that company. I have re contacted them and it appears they have sacked that sub contractor saying he was having constant complaints. The problem is that the company are saying it has been 2 yrs now and they don't want to do any further work beyond re sealing, but I know there is an underlying fault with a fixture and my door frame in the kitchen is ruined and the door is sticking, I have cracked plaster. What should I do? I feel intimidated.
KELLY 11/12/2014 at 11:05 am
hiwe had a kitchen company out who fitted a kitchen , but the plumber did not do his job properly, causing a major gas leak and has ruined our heating, he is denying it is his fault but we had british gas out to confirm it is his fault, what can we do about compensation?
dude 08/08/2014 at 11:39 pm
I had a water leak under kitchen floorboards 5 years ago a plumber came and took the whole job on fixed the leak and left a humidifier to dry the open floor for about 2 weeks there was over a foot of water. trying to sell my house and a survey has come back with damp coming from the kitchen floor and said the joists have been effected would the plumber be responsible for not drying it out. it was an insurance claim
ConsumerRightsExpert Editor 30/06/2014 at 11:31 am
@kiaora. If this is something your original plumber caused then he should rectify it. Get back in touch with him and suggest he fixes it. If he refuses, get someone else to fix it and send him the bill. Then take him to the small claims court if he doesn't pay that.
kiaora 26/06/2014 at 6:38 pm
I had central heating installed in January 2014. in March the same heating engineer fitted new bath taps. My neighbour downstairs came up yesterday and said he had a leak in the bathroom ceiling from my flat. I found the leak and it was a very heavy drip, i called in a plumber friend, he said the imperial joint fitting had a 22ml flexi joint flexi hose tap connected to it. He put tape on the connection to slow down the flow then he had to go. I rang the heating engineer, he is working in Cornwall, I pay the council service charges for my flat that i own. I rang them and was told i couldn't claim from them, then i rang my house hold policy and was told that problem isn't covered. I don't know what to do. In 40 years i have never claimed for anything. The piping needs replacing to the taps. Please can you help
SAD 12/01/2014 at 8:39 pm
I had a new bathroom suite supplied and fitted in September 2011 and in July 2013 a crack was observed in the bath. The plumber was informed immediately and said he would get in touch with the bath manufacturer and let me know the outcome. Despite repeated requested both in person and by letter the plumber has not even been to see the problem never mind rectify it. Your comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
BWD 19/10/2011 at 9:09 pm
HI, I have had a pumber in to fix a slow draining/blocked sink in my kitchen on the 7th October. He seemed to do a really good job and the sink drained very quickly as you would normally expect.
A week after he fixed the issue the drainage begun slowing down and now is as bad as it was when we first called him out. I have called up th eplumbing company and asked that they send the same plumber back to investigate and resolve at their own cost as I have already paid for this service. They have said that they will not as they cannot guarantee what I have put down my sink in the last 10 days or so.
What are my rights? And what should I do next?

Thanks in advance!

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